2024/25 Sean Dyche

[Toffeepot]

You want spend the day arguing about football but caveat that you know nothing about football. But emotionally your are fine.
Think we can all say Merry Christmas to that

Disingenuous comment that
He was saying he has limited knowledge by comparison to football professionals that work in the industry and are paid to know more about managers in the world, and well you know it too

 

[Lanolin]

This highlights our best run was without him so is not a reasonable moan from Dyche regarding this season's form. The squad has been strengthened besides

Alternatively you could say him coming on as a sub in those games is what allowed us to see them through for 90 minutes and so actually highlights the biggest difference to this season, with so much criticism being directed at dyche for not making the subs that help us win games this year. Maybe onana comes on as a sub against Bournemouth and we win 4-0, totally changing the narrative of the season. It’s dead easy this making stuff up lark isn’t it?

Any improvement in the squad this season is minimal. There’s an argument it’s maybe slightly stronger but it’s very debatable and again the refusal to accept that is just a bit daft. No neutral fan is looking at the business we did in the summer and thinking wow Everton are going to be ace this year, we’ve shuffled things round a bit but the squad is ultimately about the same level as it was.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

This highlights our best run was without him so is not a reasonable moan from Dyche regarding this season's form. The squad has been strengthened besides

It wasn't. This was;



I rate Onana as highly as anyone, but to be fair to the manager, he had to make changes after Chelsea, changed half the team and kept with a winning team as he should.

I also disagree we strengthened. Shared my view consistently on here on that before a ball was kicked this season.

We again made money, the only PL team to do so for 4 years on the spin. We need to invest and strengthen this January which if TFG are in, we will.

 

[Marius57]

Disingenuous comment that
He was saying he has limited knowledge by comparison to football professionals that work in the industry and are paid to know more about managers in the world, and well you know it too

Gets a bit pathetic from them all really. And if that’s their approach, then it says all you need to know.

Back on Dyche. Hope he gets us a win this weekend. Damn sure could do with the points.

 

[Toffeepot]

It wasn't. This was;



I rate Onana as highly as anyone, but to be fair to the manager, he had to make changes after Chelsea, changed half the team and kept with a winning team as he should.

I also disagree we strengthened. Shared my view consistently on here on that before a ball was kicked this season.

We again made money, the only PL team to do so for 4 years on the spin. We need to invest and strengthen this January which if TFG are in, we will.

he only played 45 minutes of those three league wins on the spin

You don't think we strengthened? based on net spend only or on the quality brought in?

 

[nsno-chris]

Its mad that all the players Dyche doesn't like always seem to get injuries and are kept away from the squad

Yet those who he loves seem to recover from injuries a lot sooner and are straight back in the squad.

Every man and his dog knew Dyche didn't want Onana, but yeah ok

 

[Toffeepot]

Gets a bit pathetic from them all really. And if that’s their approach, then it says all you need to know.

Back on Dyche. Hope he gets us a win this weekend. Damn sure could do with the points.

Not seeing us win at the emirates tbh
Would bite your hand off for a draw but keeping the score down might be worth a point in GD later on as depressing as that sounds

Dyche's style doesn't historically work away against top sides

 

[JLW]

Tell me the manager you’d appoint. I’m all for improving

Well i would take every single one of the current other 18 managers in this league now over him barring Southampton manager.

I would take Carrick over him
I would take Allardyce over him
I would take Moyes over him
I would take Carsley over him
I would take Southgate over him
I would take Potter over him

I dont rate any of the above, that doesnt mean any of the above i want as the next manager, absolutely not but i would rather them be here than this fella.
They're just the British managers there is a massive world out there to choose from, hundreds of them who's CV will show us that the clubs they've managed have improved, players being improved, league positions massively improved, win percentage improved.

 

[Marius57]

Not seeing us win at the emirates tbh
Would bite your hand off for a draw but keeping the score down might be worth a point in GD later on as depressing as that sounds

Dyche's style doesn't historically work away against top sides

Me neither. But I can always hope.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

he only played 45 minutes of those three league wins on the spin

You don't think we strengthened? based on net spend only or on the quality brought in?

No.

Because of NDiaye and Lindstrom? Two players who arrived on the back of disaster seasons, who hadn't played in the top flight. They were going to resolve our chronic lack of goals?

We didn't spend, and certainly didn't bring in the players to move us away from perennial relegation battles.

Some of my posts from July/August;

Any that wouldn't need a transfer fee?

Appreciate there's potential tiny one/with wages - but if they're too high you walk away.

We've got to be pragmatic, we have very little to spend and a lot of places to fill. As you shared;

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... sure, we've signed Lindstrom, but we need bodies.

Any player on loan, particularly in CM who can do a job is a good signing.

We should be using all our loan places.

Small margins.

Over the last 3 seasons;

We've averaged 41 points

From 342 points - we've earned 123.

We score 39 per season - an average of 1.03 per game.
We concede 58 per season - an average of 1.53 per game.

Last season we got lucky with injuries.

At the moment, we have 3 deep/centre midfielders.

You didn't say that, though

if we remove the deduction last season, I think it was 34th game we hit 40 points last season. It was certainly late on.

40 points is traditional safety for valid reasons.

So, if we went so late into the season before we achieved 40 points last season.

And we went to the last home game of the season to stay up the 2 seasons before that....

Then why now, suddenly do people think "Shouldn't be involved in a relegation battle with that squad"

Because Ndiaye, Lindstrom, Iroegbunam and O'Brien? Behave. None of us have seen them play a competitive game at the highest level.

My point is as a team, this is us over 3 years;



^ Small margins.

If we get injuries this season, we'll really struggle IMO.

Maybe the team is also VERY bad.

Look at it;

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Put any hipster manager you want in.

Put Ndiaye and Lindstrom in.

Put Branthwaite in.

Hope we don't get ANY injuries.

And it's still crap.

I figure the below would be us at full strength.

Ive not seen Lindstrom play and I don't think he's a winger so I've put Ndiaye there.

Tim looked alright but likely we'll see Doucoure drop deeper.

But the below. It doesn't bode well. There's no pace or ability to progress play (Gnonto please!) so it's deep, with direct balls.

Calvert Lewin

Ndiaye

Harrison McNeil

Garner Tim

Mykolenko Branthwaite Tarkowski Coleman

Pickford.​

Whoever the manager under TFG, they need to be backed with players with actual pace, who can progress play/do something in the final third.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

Its mad that all the players Dyche doesn't like always seem to get injuries and are kept away from the squad

Yet those who he loves seem to recover from injuries a lot sooner and are straight back in the squad.

Every man and his dog knew Dyche didn't want Onana, but yeah ok

So Dyche and the club lie about injuries in order to save face for Dyche, and the players also stay silent on this?

The conspiracies continue to grow

 

[Toffeepot]

So Dyche and the club lie about injuries in order to save face for Dyche, and the players also stay silent on this?

The conspiracies continue to grow

The real world isn't so black and white
Dyche can decide if he regards a player as ready to play or not and I'm pretty sure the players and the club are aware that press conferences involve a level of misdirection and dishonesty at the manager's discretion. Players that rock the boat usually play less

 

[Neiler]

So Dyche and the club lie about injuries in order to save face for Dyche, and the players also stay silent on this?

The conspiracies continue to grow

Its so brilliantly unhealthy.

I feel we should encourage this.

 

[Toffeepot]

No.

Because of NDiaye and Lindstrom? Two players who arrived on the back of disaster seasons, who hadn't played in the top flight. They were going to resolve our chronic lack of goals?

We didn't spend, and certainly didn't bring in the players to move us away from perennial relegation battles.

Some of my posts from July/August;










Whoever the manager under TFG, they need to be backed with players with actual pace, who can progress play/do something in the final third.

Ndiaye is an upgrade regardless of his prior season and Lindstrom is an extra option. Mangala is a solid player that fills in the Onana gap imo as well as Tim. Onana might become a great but he's not there yet. I think our biggest loss was Godfrey as a back up player at FB tbh. Would like us to have replaced him. As regards goals, Dyche's teams don't score lots of goals, never have, never will

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Ndiaye is an upgrade regardless of his prior season and Lindstrom is an extra option. Mangala is a solid player that fills in the Onana gap imo as well as Tim. Onana might become a great but he's not there yet. I think our biggest loss was Godfrey as a back up player at FB tbh. Would like us to have replaced him. As regards goals, Dyche's teams don't score lots of goals, never have, never will

Danjuma looks a better option than Lindstrom.

Mangala isn't a 10th of the player Onana is.

Above all - as rivals spent big - we didn't spend and address the lack of pace/lack of goals. We needed Minteh. Gnonto. Players like that. We ended up far down the list with players like Lindstrom who were never a priority.

This Everton team and it's players don't score lots of goals, never have, never will.

That doesn't exonerate Dyche. But the players we have dictate bad times. As it did under previous managers.