2024/25 Sean Dyche

[Saint Domingo]

His critics have every entitlement to be: his record this season is appalling and his football worse.

But - and this is where I part ways with them - the real issue is upstairs. Nothing will change until the ownership changes. It is in the boardroom where the critical dysfunction is. And that's where genuine anger should be directed.

So, for me: Dyche was a necessary evil. He just about remains so. But I won't lose any sleep if somebody at Everton accidentally discovers they have power to...do something and make a change. Mind you, given their track record of decision-making, perhaps it is best if nothing happens. All in all, we're adrift and on a wing and a prayer until the ownership changes hands. Everything else is choreography and demonstrative acting out.

So a handful of games outweighs the season and a half before?

 

[Drico]

So a handful of games outweighs the season and a half before?

You make the season and a half before sound like Brazil at Espana ‘82.

People expected that things would get a little better this term now that Dyche had established a bridgehead at the club. But they have gotten worse. Patience is frayed. He’s not worth defending with any passion.

 

[Blue peter]

I read the stuff churned out by you and your cohorts and realise you'd rather any stability built up over the last 20 moths or so were ditched i favour of another feverish period of manager sacking and embarrassing managerial searches that throw up the next exotic name.

It makes me shudder to think of it.

In the next few weeks you and the others will be piped right down, and not before time. In the meantime I'll enjoy a well earned opening point to the season and see it as a contribution toward survival while you just become more toxic over changing a manager who is pretty much fireproof with a board who won't sack a manager 9 months from avoiding handing him a pay off.

BTW, Id continue with Dyche and hand him another contract if he keeps us up again. He's safety to me. And my biggest fear is relegation.

At what point then do you start to look at and adopt greater ambitions than just survival. Another contract say a two year extension, and we are likely to just get that survival/mid table ambition under this manager.

 

[Saint Domingo]

You make the season and a half before sound like Brazil at Espana ‘82.

People expected that things would get a little better this term now that Dyche had established a bridgehead at the club. But they have gotten worse. Patience is frayed. He’s not worth defending with any passion.

Where? Or has this never happened.

I think people calling for him to be fired after one game of this season isn’t patience.

Things can still get better this season, that’s why a season is 38 games not 5.

Honestly you’re drawing massive sweeping conclusions on an entire season based on a handful of games. That’s just illogical, balanced up by the fact that we had the exact same start last season (from even easier fixtures) and still got 48 points even with a huge non winning run in the middle (by the way just in case it’s not obvious, me staying a fact of the points total we got last season is not the same as me saying it’s Brazil or Spain at 82. The points total isn’t my opinion it’s just a fact, inconvenient as it might be to some)

 

[Blue peter]

It would be interesting to know exactly what the players think of him and his footballing philosophy/ tactics.

 

[Drico]

Where? Or has this never happened.

I think people calling for him to be fired after one game of this season isn’t patience.

Things can still get better this season, that’s why a season is 38 games not 5.

Honestly you’re drawing massive sweeping conclusions on an entire season based on a handful of games. That’s just illogical, balanced up by the fact that we had the exact same start last season (from even easier fixtures) and still got 48 points even with a huge non winning run in the middle (by the way just in case it’s not obvious, me staying a fact of the points total we got last season is not the same as me saying it’s Brazil or Spain at 82. The points total isn’t my opinion it’s just a fact, inconvenient as it might be to some)

You’re very exercised by this. Are you Steve Stone?

 

[Saint Domingo]

The bigger question is why is he playing 90 minutes for the Under 21s and not the first team 24 hours before?

It’s almost as though under 21 football and premier league football might be played at different paces, at different levels of quality, and have completely different outcomes riding on them.

 

[matty1878]

It would be interesting to know exactly what the players think of him and his footballing philosophy/ tactics.

they should just egnore him

 

[Saint Domingo]

You’re very exercised by this. Are you Steve Stone?

So I must work on the coaching staff because I’ve pointed out that I’ve never likened the football to the best teams of all time after you just erroneously accused me of that?

Bizarre argument

 

[matty1878]

that kid looks should be in under 15s

 

[matty1878]

What if we win them, the horror

if we don’t we’re gone

 

[matty1878]

Apparently it was all about how poor the football was last season. People said they’d take losing balance in the side if they saw Dyche was opening up looking to attack more and score more. What is apparent is that people don’t care at all about the football as the attacking is much better this season, they only care about the result. No one cared about the first 87 mins of football v Bournemouth, they only cared about the result.

All fans only care about the results and until an ownership change we’ve got a bottom half squad so the results will be bottom half regardless of the football aesthetic. The frustration at that should be directed at Moshiri not at Dyche, but some just want to see managers fired rather than look at the bigger picture.

the employment of dyche should be at moshiri

the results should be aimed at sean dunce

 

[Blue peter]

We escaped relegation with relative ease last season (for us of late anyway). I think that's given some the belief we can push on to mid table and beyond and that "we have the players now" to do that. Well, we cant and we dont.

We have the quality of players we have to get us to maybe 14th at a push 13th (with a fair wind behind us). That's our level and that's ok for now. But if we start with the managerial merry-go-round again we can forget about surviving with a couple of weeks to spare.

There's some who believe we'll get an Emery in, or someone less proven but equally effective. They're barking mad. No manager of quality will touch a squad like this unless they get a massive pay check, and that's the route that's got us where we are right now: paying off the latest flavour of the month and their backroom staff.

I think people would accept 13th or 14th as being a measure of sustainable progress. The issue I think some have, is that everyone is just sick of seeing a club that may end up 13th or 14th at the foot of the table once again having had another horrid start.

If we went on a four game losing streak in mid season, yes people would be disgruntled but that run coming at the start of a season is a gut punch. Saying we will end up 13th or 14th is great as long as we do, and regardless of him doing it in the past, there’s always the season he does e.g. Burnley’s two relegation seasons. Additionally, it’s yet again his predilection for first team selection choices and his poor in game management. Not a great start really is it - he really needs to show he can learn and improve. The clock is ticking.

 

[matty1878]

I think people would accept 13th or 14th as being a measure of sustainable progress. The issue I think some have, is that everyone is just sick of seeing a club that may end up 13th or 14th at the foot of the table once again having had another horrid start.

If we went on a four game losing streak in mid season, yes people would be disgruntled but that run coming at the start of a season is a gut punch. Saying we will end up 13th or 14th is great as long as we do, and regardless of him doing it in the past, there’s always the season he does e.g. Burnley’s two relegation seasons. Additionally, it’s yet again his predilection for first team selection choices and his poor in game management. Not a great start really is it - he really needs to show he can learn and improve. The clock is ticking.

NO other manager would be at any club with his record

we are a joke

 

[matty1878]

So a handful of games outweighs the season and a half before?

it’s not a handful mate his record past
25 games is a disgrace