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I'm aware of your opinion on the matter and I respect your view but you have to admit you cannot speak on behalf of ALL women, it might be the majority but not all. I know a few that wouldn't have an issue with it. Go on you tube and watch practical jokers steal kisses from women as well as film them in the process, some people are carefree and cheeky enough to get away with it as all fun and games when it is far more invasive and bordering on assault.

Do I think it is the norm? Of course not but saying a blanket no on it across the board is just not human. What if the bloke is a photographer, they not allowed to ask too?

I agree with you completely that asking a random person with no hint of trying to see that person again is creepy. But some wouldn't bat an eyelid (I'm talking about girls here). As for safety, you have probably seen Facebook, Instagram, twitter, dating apps. You can build up a far better idea of where someone lives and works and all other stuff from hundreds of photos that are enabled for everyone to see, than one random shot in public. That doesn't sound sensible to you or me but some people aren't and they just don't give a hoot.

Oh ffs

*throws up hands


I get it. You're probably a decent guy with no intention of causing harm (you're also conflating different social settings and circumstances to make your argument)

As a women, I don't get to have the luxury of being able to trust an unknown male as having honorable intentions, precisely because previous experience has taught me this is all too frequently not the case.
 
Given the ability of almost every cellphone to take a picture from a distance, why the need to get up close and personal and likely creep someone out?
 
Oh ffs

*throws up hands


I get it. You're probably a decent guy with no intention of causing harm (you're also conflating different social settings and circumstances to make your argument)

As a women, I don't get to have the luxury of being able to trust an unknown male as having honorable intentions, precisely because previous experience has taught me this is all too frequently not the case.

I get that honestly, but there are also some nice guys out their with fairly decent intentions too. I'm sorry that you have gone through those experiences but there maybe others that haven't that would be more receptive to things that would be way out of your comfort zone. That was only the point I'm trying to get across.

I bet if we were flies on a wall watching something go on like that, 9 times out of 10 (or maybe more) it would seem creepy to me too and therefore it was done in inappropriate manner as part of it is first seeing how receptive someone is to you just talking to them. If they are already irritated by you at this point taking it further is not going to end well and us as bystanders would be cringing and thinking 'hell no don't say it!'.

Some may get on like a house on fire and gain enough mutual trust to allow it to go to that level.
 


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