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Ok, that's it !!!
Mods close this thread. Some people posing as optimistic Evertonians have made their way here.
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Agreed TX back in FACT
A couple of wins will sort it out but we have looked [Poor language removed] lately.
Getting beat while playing well is another thing. Lets hope its a blip.
Getting dogs in the title of a thread. Ace.
Getting beat while playing well is another thing. Lets hope its a blip.
Getting dogs in the title of a thread. Ace.
SuitsBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
reading - poor
bolton - we were battered for long spells
man ure - worth a draw but hardly inspiring
metalist - atrocious
villa - pedestrian
thats not a couple of games unfortunately.
i dont like number 3, i still get cold sweats after the ''three new signings'' malarky from a couple of seasons ago on the OS.
wheres the innovative moyes that let the 4-1-4-1 loose on the league? that inspired such dogged determined displays where every player would rather die than lose a clean sheet? give me defensive boring grinding out of results that at least show some desire instead of the current amateurish loping about and failure to take responsibility when the ball isnt running our way.
they were boo'd off on thursday night, and rightly so.
they have to change it round, they are the ones wearing the shirts and getting the amazing wages.
And its not as if we didnt have the funds in the summer.
Twenty odd million spent should improve a side that finished sixth last summer.
If we score loads of goal and play some ace stuff in the next four games I will go back to being positive.
Twenty odd million spent should improve a side that finished sixth last summer.
If we score loads of goal and play some ace stuff in the next four games I will go back to being positive.
neonleon
Player Valuation: £35m
with the exception of point 4, I agree with all of the above. Well, apart from the two bad games. Blackburn was bad, reading was bad, metalist was bad, man U was bad, as were villa and bolton.
not a couple of games is it?
The problems in the team that I've highlighted have been problems for some time. I'm waiting for Moyes to remedy this. He is the best manager we've had for a long time, but it doesn't lend him infallibility or put him beyond question. We've been needing to improve the quality of the squad for awhile now. This is no knee jerk reaction to current form even if it has been precipitated by it.
Any excuses regarding injuries are precisely that - a squad is developed to deal with the inevitability of injuries, particularly in a busy european season. It was Moyes decision to go down a road of a smaller rather than a broader squad.
I don't consider myself a negative poster, I think its realism when you consider the results and analyse the way we play. Optimism can only paper over the cracks so far.
I'm coming slowly to the conclusion that Moyes' philosophy, actively precludes buying players of culture, flair, creativity and techinique - with certain exceptions. I also know that Moyes is always learning, which is the sign of a great manager IMO, so I'm sure he will get on this in the near future (he already tried in fernandes and Riquelme)
Its not that I want everton to play in the style of arsenal, effective football is good for me, we just need quality.
Anyway, cringe all you want at posts like these.
I only cringe when everton play as [Poor language removed] as they have recently.
(and if its not [Poor language removed] was is the word for it?)
coyney
Player Valuation: £35m
I am not demanding Moyes out but think that he needs someone to guide him and hopefully tell him that we will put up with a lot but there is a limit and playing the dross that we have is just about there Much as I hate to see us lose it hurts more when there is no attempt to play football .
neonleon
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm not suggesting a change of management. Seems ludicrously premature.
I just think Moyes should be aware of the dissatisfaction of a large amounts of fans with regard to some of the issues that have been continously raised on forums such as these - hoofing the ball, lack of distribution from the back, lack of quality in midfield, failure to keep possession, poor service to the forwards etc.
I just expect a change in the overall philosophy, not a complete abandonment of it. Look at Spurs, who are technically superior but have no team spirit, nil emphasis on the defensive aspects of the game, and when push comes to shove no steel or fight in them.
Moyes has most of it right, we need that bit of quality in midfield and some coaching on fundamentals and an emphasis on passing and keeping possession.
and if we are to keep playing longer balls we need a big dunc figure. as its pointless hoofing to AJ, faddy etc.
I just think Moyes should be aware of the dissatisfaction of a large amounts of fans with regard to some of the issues that have been continously raised on forums such as these - hoofing the ball, lack of distribution from the back, lack of quality in midfield, failure to keep possession, poor service to the forwards etc.
I just expect a change in the overall philosophy, not a complete abandonment of it. Look at Spurs, who are technically superior but have no team spirit, nil emphasis on the defensive aspects of the game, and when push comes to shove no steel or fight in them.
Moyes has most of it right, we need that bit of quality in midfield and some coaching on fundamentals and an emphasis on passing and keeping possession.
and if we are to keep playing longer balls we need a big dunc figure. as its pointless hoofing to AJ, faddy etc.
It makes me cringe because 2 weeks ago we were brilliant and we were going to be in the champions league etc etc!!! Now we are [Poor language removed] we should be looking at Moyes and the team and saying they are [Poor language removed]!
There have been a few teams that have had a patchy start- the dirty mancs, Spurs and even Chelsea. The team is gelling together and Im not making excuses but this team has the potential to be top class- just read through the names:
Howard
Lescott
Yobo
Arteta
Cahill
Jagielka
Vaughan
AJ
Yakubu
Call it optimism or just blind faith but I think that group of players will soon 'click' and we are on to a winner.
Blues 4 Boro 0 (AJ Hatrick)
There have been a few teams that have had a patchy start- the dirty mancs, Spurs and even Chelsea. The team is gelling together and Im not making excuses but this team has the potential to be top class- just read through the names:
Howard
Lescott
Yobo
Arteta
Cahill
Jagielka
Vaughan
AJ
Yakubu
Call it optimism or just blind faith but I think that group of players will soon 'click' and we are on to a winner.
Blues 4 Boro 0 (AJ Hatrick)
Sim
Player Valuation: £8m
You missed out Bainesy mick!
you missed tommy mick but i agree with you.
with half a team out what do people expect
GhostOfDixie
Player Valuation: £70m
Well at the moment we have 3 quality attacking midfielders injured so we are having to make do. If Arteta, Cahill and Gravesen are fit we won't be so war like, trust me. In January we are also likely to bring in another midfielder, so don't be so worried.
Be thankful we don't have to play a centre midfielder in defence because we have nobody else. (Chelsea)
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