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Standard Liege vs Everton 2nd Oct 18:40

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Leighton Baines

Phone Roy Keane on the 1st January.

The man has been found out. He isn't good enough.

Mikel Arteta

Again thinking he is Kaka. Time to give someone else a go with the corners.

David Moyes

Completely wrong again. Neville and Cahill off the ball are never the players who will gain you possession. That central midfield was suicide. See Fiorentina.
 
has anyone else noticed that the further back cahill plays, the worse our team performs. he needs to be up attacking just behind the strikers, theres no reason for him to play where he was today
 

Cahill, as good a goal scorer as he is and as often as he saves our skins is a luxury, its good when he scores but when he doesnt...
 
I can,t believe how we can,t pass a ball but with starting neville in the middle what did we expect.
I thought we were poor tonight yes we passed it in our own half but their [Poor language removed] keeper was not even made to work.
All that hard work to qualify for europe and tonight we played like it was a friendly.
Again no heart,passion or flair i see the players can talk the talk but the clear the air meeting they had obviously fell on deaf ears.
 
well what can i say , im gutted.

i wasnt happy with neville and yakubu's performance (again)but mostly i thought arteta was poor.

thats as bad as ive seen him play.it was a gutless and heartless performance by his usual standards.
yet again there was no end product and he should be shot for the pathetic corner he took in the final seconds.

in fact i thought all our big players were a anonomous.

jags saha lescott were our best 3 players imo
 
I reckon Micheal Arteta the Spanish Dustman would of played better tonight, shame he wasn't really playing.

And i'd just like to add that people moaning about how us being seeded should of got an easier tie : [Poor language removed] that, if we were good enough we would of won. But we were not good enough. I dont wanna win a tournament cause we beat [Poor language removed] teams, i wanna win because we proved we were the best.

But we couldn't do that in Europe in 2005, we couldn't do it last year (had a good run but got found out as soon as we played a team of 11 men as good as us) and we couldn't do it this year.
 

Well......Liege are a good side aint they? Doenst anyone agree?

They have two excellent, skillful wingers able to beat the full backs and cross the ball. Pace, flair and skill -- the [Poor language removed] got done on it (well almost) and so did we.

We started off dominating possession, pasing well, closing down. But playing into their hands really. They are a counter attacking team -- we all know this. And what happened? Got their goals from counter attacks.

We got the bogey team and we got knocked out.

Plus points is that we passed it around better, and I thought Baines played well. But whats the point in passing it well when we've 1 playmaker on the pitch and Osman who is [Poor language removed] on the wing?

I really thought we could've done them today and we started well. But either way we needed 2 goals and we didnt really pull of two shots.
 
I thought Moyes was perhaps on the right lines trying 4-4-2, but when I saw that Hibbert was playing my heart kinda sank. Watched thw whole game and have to say our goal was very lucky. I felt that with regard to the pen, 60-40 yes, if it had been the other way we would allhave been positive about it.

Neville in midfield is a big mistake, his best position apart from left back in the dressing room is right back. Arteta for me stank and has hardly done anything worth shouting about since the start of the season, needs to be rested IMO.

I am now going to say something which may upset forum members. Hibbert and Osman have to go, Baines should also go trouble is he is the best thing we have at LB.

I really thought tonight the team should have been apart from howard, neville, yobo, lescott and baines. I would have liked to see jagielka playing just in front of the back four with arteta, castillo pienaar and then Yak and Saha. SO 4-1-3-2. I do not know if it would have worked but could it have done less.
 

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