Stoke v Everton 1st Jan 2014 @ 15:00

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bluestevon said:
No need to apologize lad, each to their own like, and we weren't great in possession by any means, just though for large parts stoke reverted to type with hoof balls and giving possession straight back is all
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Stoke's kick offs were taken straight from Rugby Union, I love it when someone adheres to a stereotype.

They did defend well though, Deulefeou would have been useful to come of the bench in yesterday's game.
 
Fuleco said:
I would have kept Lukaku on at the end. Surely a shattered Romelu having a terrible game is a better option than Jelavic at the moment.
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Jela did ok coming off the bench against Stoke and S'land i thought. Do need a better back up striker like
 
All in all it's a decent point. We have to forget the Sunderland match as an anomaly and stop using it to provide context to our other results.
 

TomDixie said:
All in all it's a decent point. We have to forget the Sunderland match as an anomaly and stop using it to provide context to our other results.
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Completely agree.

That Sunderland result is the very definition of an anomaly.

If people want to criticise yesterday, then they have more grounds to do so but even then, I thought there were plenty of positives.

Stoke are clearly an awful footballing team, but the fact is they are hard to beat at home. Given how often we came close it's unfair to write our performance off as poor. In poor conditions, against a tough, very resilient side, we battered them and kept going to the last. On another day we would've won 3-1 but sometimes you can say both teams had their part to play - Stoke were at times brilliant defensively. Some great last-ditch stuff.

We can equally look back at the Southampton game and say we were hardly that superior, it was an even game where a draw, realistically, was fair. We nicked it thanks to a good finish. Yesterday, we couldn't get the goals to match our superiority (at times).

I'm unsure why a lot of people are so unwilling to accept things are rarely black or white.
 

I can remember the truly great Liverpool comics of the past, the best of which didn't even make it to tv. Bishop seems to have come from nowhere (bit like McIntyre), with no comic's apprenticeship, to become one of the best paid in the business. Can't understand why.
 
bcblue1878 said:
Like most of them Osman gets stick on here when its deserved! Yesterday was proof (again) that he is best these days coming off the bench when teams are tiring and he has a bit more time and space, but sorry he's no longer a starter!
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I agree, actually.
I've been one of Osman's biggest supporters but he doesn't have the mobility or engine today to play a quick, high tempo game from the start.. not sure that he ever had it tbh, but definitely not nowadays. Still very decent option to have on the bench as an impact player. Martinez obviously rates him, but he shouldn't be starting more than a dozen games a season now.
 

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