Is every step on the clubs there a step up or a step down to when they ultimately ended up being deemed surplus for a loan to Everton - youve pretty much proven my point there. Its like they had obvious quality and ultimately got lost, dismissed by others, deemed surplus, loaned out and considered misfits.
Many wont remember but both Arteta and to lesser extent Pienarr took a while even to take off here - Arteta in particular, many didn't want to sign him permenently.
Point being, i wouldnt sniff at a player linked on the basis of the clubs they played for and haven't made it - you've just written the examples above.
Leave it to me - someone has the fight corner of championing the cause of signing young players with potential on here! lol