Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread



We need a hit rate like Newcastle have had. Not made a bad signing since the Saudi’s came in, very good team.
Newcastle are absolutely screwed on a psr perspective though, they've bought high and just don't have the assets to sell. Look at the fees they paid for Livramento, Hall, Isak, Bruno - all have been big wins but they've come at a cost too. We'd be better off continuing on the path we already set out - spending less than market on players with bags of potential but going through a sticky patch - let's find more O'Briens, NDiayes
 
Newcastle are absolutely screwed on a psr perspective though, they've bought high and just don't have the assets to sell. Look at the fees they paid for Livramento, Hall, Isak, Bruno - all have been big wins but they've come at a cost too. We'd be better off continuing on the path we already set out - spending less than market on players with bags of potential but going through a sticky patch - let's find more O'Briens, NDiayes

I mean they could sell a host of players for decent money.

We can’t go down their route obviously as we don’t have that money, but would be nice to have a run of unequivocal hit signings for a change.
 
Newcastle are absolutely screwed on a psr perspective though, they've bought high and just don't have the assets to sell. Look at the fees they paid for Livramento, Hall, Isak, Bruno - all have been big wins but they've come at a cost too. We'd be better off continuing on the path we already set out - spending less than market on players with bags of potential but going through a sticky patch - let's find more O'Briens, NDiayes
Absolute nonsense they could sell Hall, Livaremento, Tonali , Joelinton , Guimares , Gordon , Barnes , Murphy and Isak and make a significant profit on each of them.
 
Absolute nonsense they could sell Hall, Livaremento, Tonali , Joelinton , Guimares , Gordon , Barnes , Murphy and Isak and make a significant profit on each of them.
They could do that of course but they don't want to sell any of those players.

It's no secret that they've been hampered by PSR in the last couple of windows, they've not been able to keep building their squad to be big enough to cope with European football. Easy to forget now due to the excellent season they've ended up having, but wasn't that long ago it looked like the wheels were starting to fall off a bit there. They bet big with their spending and if it didn't work out they would have been royally screwed.

We would be lucky to have a run in the transfer window like Newcastle have had, but we're going to have to be a lot more frugal with how we spend our money imo.
 

Seems like the Souček links just aren’t going away… I’m not too opposed as I think he’s an upgrade on most of our midfield and has a goal in him so think he’d be a good signing at the right price. The trouble is WHU will likely want £20m+ and he’ll ask for at least £100k p/w, we’ve got to move away from those kinds of deals to progress.
 
Absolute nonsense they could sell Hall, Livaremento, Tonali , Joelinton , Guimares , Gordon , Barnes , Murphy and Isak and make a significant profit on each of them.
All these numbers are taken from Transfermarkt (I'm not about to look up the individual £ prices, sue me)

Hall - €30m
Tonali - €58m
Barnes - €44m
Livramento - €37m
Isak - €70m
Gordon - €45m
Guimares - €42m
Joelinton - €43m

These are big fees, are you sure they'd get 'significant profit' on all? Who there would command a 2x (maybe Guimares and maybe Isak, but the rest?). The other issue is Newcastle just don't have the 'book profit' others do - the assets coming through their youth system are not good enough, not even for little profit.

Now look at the Arrivals Vs Departures fees since 21/22 - It does not make for pretty reading:
- €130M in/€0M out (21/22)
- €185M in/€14M out (22/23)
- €148M in/€44M out (23/24)
- €68M in/€89M out (24/25)

Newcastle is not a model that we should follow
 
All these numbers are taken from Transfermarkt (I'm not about to look up the individual £ prices, sue me)

Hall - €30m
Tonali - €58m
Barnes - €44m
Livramento - €37m
Isak - €70m
Gordon - €45m
Guimares - €42m
Joelinton - €43m

These are big fees, are you sure they'd get 'significant profit' on all? Who there would command a 2x (maybe Guimares and maybe Isak, but the rest?). The other issue is Newcastle just don't have the 'book profit' others do - the assets coming through their youth system are not good enough, not even for little profit.

Now look at the Arrivals Vs Departures fees since 21/22 - It does not make for pretty reading:
- €130M in/€0M out (21/22)
- €185M in/€14M out (22/23)
- €148M in/€44M out (23/24)
- €68M in/€89M out (24/25)

Newcastle is not a model that we should follow

I mean they can sell Miley (a very big prospect) and Longstaff for pure profit. Joelinton would be a big PSR profit too. And they have owners that will undoubtedly manipulate things as well as likely Champions league football.

Nobody is expecting Everton to be able to ‘follow the model’.
 
I mean they can sell Miley (a very big prospect) and Longstaff for pure profit. Joelinton would be a big PSR profit too. And they have owners that will undoubtedly manipulate things as well as likely Champions league football.

Nobody is expecting Everton to be able to ‘follow the model’.
I don't doubt that Newcastle can get money from finishing higher in the league, and playing in Europe, that's a given. It's just many people look at their team, and the numbers floating around for their players and see those as BIG wins. In reality, they have spent inordinate amounts and have been coached really well, consistently over the past 4 years to get to the position they are in.

Everton could also spend net €384M over 4 seasons but that's not the trajectory we should be on. Gone are the days of spending high on players and hoping they come good, we need better squad composition,.and better coaching (which we should have the latter with Moyes).
 
Seems like the Souček links just aren’t going away… I’m not too opposed as I think he’s an upgrade on most of our midfield and has a goal in him so think he’d be a good signing at the right price. The trouble is WHU will likely want £20m+ and he’ll ask for at least £100k p/w, we’ve got to move away from those kinds of deals to progress.
Id take a soucek if it meant we also was in for somebody like a rig aswell just to add experience and let the young player grow i to the side. Is on 90 at west ham so agree would be a similar wage here and is something we need to avoid
 

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