The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[harris78]

The rich being in a tiss over the mansion tax proposal really is quite enjoyable. They should try being a victim of domestic abuse.

I'm not quite sure how these go hand in hand? One is politically motivated where as the other is an abhorrent crime.

 

[rascal]

I'm not quite sure how these go hand in hand? One is politically motivated where as the other is an abhorrent crime.

A woman is being charged the 'bedroom tax' because of a panic room.

 

[harris78]

A woman is being charged the 'bedroom tax' because of a panic room.

In any relationship you should not need a panic room. I would say there are more deep rooted issues other than paying for a panic room. There are plenty of things to bash politicians with, to try and shoehorn in domestic abuse is just absurd.

 

[The Cowboy]

Quelle suprise - the benefit cuts are driving people to foodbanks and the Government deny it

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/19/cuts-benefit-changes-driving-up-use-food-banks-study

Cue more tripe.

Not wishing to deny the cuts (made necessary by Labour's financial mismanagement, lest we forget), but this whole foodbank thing is the anti-Tory barometer of choice. Foodbanks have always been around, but have never been as publicized as much as they are right now. And so more people use them.

 

[rascal]

In any relationship you should not need a panic room. I would say there are more deep rooted issues other than paying for a panic room. There are plenty of things to bash politicians with, to try and shoehorn in domestic abuse is just absurd.

You're right that a relationship should not need a panic room, I'll give you that much.

 

[Coach]

Not wishing to deny the cuts (made necessary by Labour's financial mismanagement, lest we forget), but this whole foodbank thing is the anti-Tory barometer of choice. Foodbanks have always been around, but have never been as publicized as much as they are right now. And so more people use them.

Whatever you say.

 

[The Cowboy]

Whatever you say.

Ah, the response of those who have no response.

 

[bluemangroup]

Not wishing to deny the cuts (made necessary by Labour's financial mismanagement, lest we forget), but this whole foodbank thing is the anti-Tory barometer of choice. Foodbanks have always been around, but have never been as publicized as much as they are right now. And so more people use them.

In a global financial crisis?

 

[The Cowboy]

In a global financial crisis?

Ok it was a flippant comment to get a few bites. Fact is the Tories have had to implement cuts due to Labour's inability to handle the economy correctly. Not sure how this can be disputed. How appropriately and how far they have gone with the cuts is open for debate.

 

[Walken]

Not wishing to deny the cuts (made necessary by Labour's financial mismanagement, lest we forget), but this whole foodbank thing is the anti-Tory barometer of choice. Foodbanks have always been around, but have never been as publicized as much as they are right now. And so more people use them.

what a ridiculous argument, yeah it's just that food banks have become more popular, the new ad campaigns are going really well for them hahahahahahaha

 

[bluemangroup]

Ok it was a flippant comment to get a few bites. Fact is the Tories have had to implement cuts due to Labour's inability to handle the economy correctly. Not sure how this can be disputed. How appropriately and how far they have gone with the cuts is open for debate.

Cuts should be more like pruning, in that you try and gently stimulate growth by cutting what's appropriate and what can grow back faster. Not hacking away with gay abandon as seems to be the case. Also seems to be effecting certain types of people more than others. Public sector work is being slashed at and divided up, whilst small business owners are being offered incentives and breaks. Big business then seems to get a free pass to do whatever it wants. Doesn't feel fair.

 

[The Cowboy]

Cuts should be more like pruning, in that you try and gently stimulate growth by cutting what's appropriate and what can grow back faster. Not hacking away with gay abandon as seems to be the case. Also seems to be effecting certain types of people more than others. Public sector work is being slashed at and divided up, whilst small business owners are being offered incentives and breaks. Big business then seems to get a free pass to do whatever it wants. Doesn't feel fair.

I agree. It doesn't seem fair at all. I can only think the reason big businesses are getting a free pass is because it is so easy for them to relocate elsewhere in the world these days. They can up sticks and relocate anywhere within a few months (or at least they CAN do, and so the threat is always there, whether they really would do it or not), which would have a devastating effect on employment and corporation tax (the ones that pay it, at least...).

Sadly, big business has got the govt by the short and curlies. This is not a new phenomenon and it certainly doesn't just boil down to the Tories scratching their rich mates' backs.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

In a global financial crisis?

Cuts both ways though doesn't it? You either criticise the mess Labour apparently caused, or criticise the Tories for how they haven't been growing the economy. It's easy to score points without really accepting the wider context within which we as a nation operate.

 

[bluemangroup]

Cuts both ways though doesn't it? You either criticise the mess Labour apparently caused, or criticise the Tories for how they haven't been growing the economy. It's easy to score points without really accepting the wider context within which we as a nation operate.

I believe there was a bit/lot of bungling on Labours part in the midst of the crisis which made the Tories job harder and the Tories have subsequently cut too deep to make life uncomfortable for quite a lot of people. That's how I see it at least.
I sort of realise I'm essentially agreeing with @The Cowboy here really aren't i?

 

[bluemangroup]

I agree. It doesn't seem fair at all. I can only think the reason big businesses are getting a free pass is because it is so easy for them to relocate elsewhere in the world these days. They can up sticks and relocate anywhere within a few months (or at least they CAN do, and so the threat is always there, whether they really would do it or not), which would have a devastating effect on employment and corporation tax (the ones that pay it, at least...).

Sadly, big business has got the govt by the short and curlies. This is not a new phenomenon and it certainly doesn't just boil down to the Tories scratching their rich mates' backs.

I semi understand the logic in sweetening the deal for big business bosses because they are free to roam round looking for a place which makes it easy for them. But I'm not so sure that making it easier to start up a smaller business and protect "job creators" is the way to go either. Suppose it means they take out more loans and get the money circulating again, usually heading back in a banks direction.