The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[L4Everton]

Good closer on QT. Politician's need to get together with medical practitioners to sort out the problems facing the NHS instead of using it as a football. Would think that most of the populace would agree, I'd also take the same approach and apply it to education.

haves vs have nots.

 

[Blue 1]

This I didn't know about until I heard it in Roger Phillips earlier this week. An unelected, £5m per year seat in the Commons - The Remembrancer.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_remembrancer

http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/201...our-parliament-to-make-life-easier-for-banks/

Somewhat ironically that role was instituted in order to make sure the monarch didn't misspend our money.

 

[Milk]

Be good if the argument could widen out away from the NHS .... which, let's face it, would suck up all the money & more you chucked at it.

Do we need a Navy? Do we need to spend money on HS2? Or tunnelling under Stonehenge? Or ??

Personally, I want to see clear blue water between the parties so I can decide whether to spoil my ballot paper or not.

 

[R.E.T.N.U.B]

"Do we need a navy". Hello ! We are a feckin Island nation, nuff said.
On a separate point, George Osborne just made some compelling and powerful arguments on BBC to give your vote to the Conservative party and not spoil your ballot paper (the ballot paper for which hundreds of thousand gave their lives so that you could have it)

 

[rascal]

On a separate point, George Osborne just made some compelling and powerful arguments on BBC to give your vote to the Conservative party and not spoil your ballot paper (the ballot paper for which hundreds of thousand gave their lives so that you could have it)

 

[Bruce Wayne]

"Do we need a navy". Hello ! We are a feckin Island nation, nuff said.
On a separate point, George Osborne just made some compelling and powerful arguments on BBC to give your vote to the Conservative party and not spoil your ballot paper (the ballot paper for which hundreds of thousand gave their lives so that you could have it)

I think wars were generally fought for freedom, were they not?

 

[R.E.T.N.U.B]

I think wars were generally fought for freedom, were they not?

Yes, absolutely right, the freedom to vote in a democracy.

 

[rascal]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ator-of-Hinchingbooke-Hospital-pulls-out.html

Damn those sick people for getting in the way of profit.

 

[Blue 1]

Yes, absolutely right, the freedom to vote in a democracy.

Or not, if that's your choice.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ator-of-Hinchingbooke-Hospital-pulls-out.html

Damn those sick people for getting in the way of profit.

They lost £29m as it happens.

http://www.hsj.co.uk/news/finance/circle-sees-operating-loss-increase-to-29m/5057818.article

It would be nice if the issues surrounding this could be discussed without the emotive politicising that appears inevitable. I mean this was a failing hospital before, and the departure of Circle seems unlikely to help matters (in the short term at least). That kind of situation deserves better than political point scoring.

 

[Milk]

"Do we need a navy". Hello ! We are a feckin Island nation, nuff said.
On a separate point, George Osborne just made some compelling and powerful arguments on BBC to give your vote to the Conservative party and not spoil your ballot paper (the ballot paper for which hundreds of thousand gave their lives so that you could have it)

Actually, Eisenhower called the UK the world's biggest aircraft carrier.
Whether a navy is actually necessary in this day & age (barring submarines), is a mute point unless you want to be the World's policeman/Aggressor.
I always vote in a General Election and I always vote Looney - you know it makes sense.

As for the NHS, I think we should kill all the sick, infirm & the old as that would save a lot of argument and, of course, money

 

[R.E.T.N.U.B]

Actually, Eisenhower called the UK the world's biggest aircraft carrier.
Whether a navy is actually necessary in this day & age (barring submarines), is a mute point unless you want to be the World's policeman/Aggressor.
I always vote in a General Election and I always vote Looney - you know it makes sense.

As for the NHS, I think we should kill all the sick, infirm & the old as that would save a lot of argument and, of course, money

Well just give a little thought to protecting our shores from mass illegal immigration, unlawful invasion of our fishing territories and rights, the prevention of industrial scale drug smuggling and a few other things.

 

[Milk]

Well just give a little thought to protecting our shores from mass illegal immigration, unlawful invasion of our fishing territories and rights, the prevention of industrial scale drug smuggling and a few other things.

Don't need a navy for that ...... coastguards can do the job backed up by border agents and the police.

Anyway, I am not against the navy but I do know that it was an option being considered by Labour & the Tories under the Defence Review.

 

[rascal]

They lost £29m as it happens.

http://www.hsj.co.uk/news/finance/circle-sees-operating-loss-increase-to-29m/5057818.article

It would be nice if the issues surrounding this could be discussed without the emotive politicising that appears inevitable. I mean this was a failing hospital before, and the departure of Circle seems unlikely to help matters (in the short term at least). That kind of situation deserves better than political point scoring.

I was being flippant but at the same time it carries truth.

 

[The Esk]

They lost £29m as it happens.

http://www.hsj.co.uk/news/finance/circle-sees-operating-loss-increase-to-29m/5057818.article

It would be nice if the issues surrounding this could be discussed without the emotive politicising that appears inevitable. I mean this was a failing hospital before, and the departure of Circle seems unlikely to help matters (in the short term at least). That kind of situation deserves better than political point scoring.

I am not trying to score political points with the following comments, but the withdrawal of Circle from its contract at Hinchingbrooke is exactly what I have spoken about before. Private capital and private operators are not suitable to support and run the NHS because ultimately they are not permanent. By its very nature, investment capital seeks the best returns and when it can not find positive returns or the prospect of positive returns it usually withdraws and is re-invested elsewhere.

We saw this at the height of the credit crunch when private capital failed to support the banking sector, forcing the tax payer to become the ultimate funder. This pattern will be repeated continually in the health service whenever conditions do not make a positive return likely.

The Circle contract had break clauses based on accumulated loss levels within the contract. No private capital or service provider would enter a contract without these provisions, so it will always be the case that the private provider can walk away from their obligations leaving patients without critical services, and the taxpayer to pick up the bits.

Far better to stop this farce now and commit to state funding across the health service.