The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[The Esk]

@piddlywiddly you are of course entitled to express your views, and they are welcome here. However can you not do so in such a combative manner. If this thread is to remain open then it requires everyone to conform to the spirit of the thread to date.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Sorting out benefit delays would surely be a priority here?

 

[neil999]

Sorting out benefit delays would surely be a priority here?

haha, no surprise...i have a working knowledge of this, a massive cause of this is staff lack of training and understanding...benefit assessors are relatively poorly paid(circa 20/25 k per year depending where they are in the country, but are responsible for giving out a huge amount of money...maybe if they were paid more there would be less error and better results? of course any party suggesting this would struggle to get elected)

 

[daylightrobber]

Are you putting words in my mouth yet again and making things up to suit your biased agenda?

Nothing biased about it at all. Having kids is and should be an emotional decision. If you always look at it as a financial issue then there would never be any logic to having them.

 

[daylightrobber]

Sorting out benefit delays would surely be a priority here?

And low incomes. And looking at the benefit changes.

 

[piddlywiddly]

Nothing biased about it at all. Having kids is and should be an emotional decision. If you always look at it as a financial issue then there would never be any logic to having them.

Do you think it's right that people who cannot afford the children they have, have more children.

Yes or no.

 

[piddlywiddly]

@piddlywiddly you are of course entitled to express your views, and they are welcome here. However can you not do so in such a combative manner. If this thread is to remain open then it requires everyone to conform to the spirit of the thread to date.

Nanny state for the precious amongst us? It's a politics debate for gawks sake.

 

[hullefc]

Sanctions: staff pressured to penalise benefit claimants ...

Atos assessors told to keep disability benefit approvals low ...

Many benefit assessors, refuse to tell those that are being sanctioned that they are entitled to a £35 emergency payment.

 

[Milk]

Nothing biased about it at all. Having kids is and should be an emotional decision. If you always look at it as a financial issue then there would never be any logic to having them.

Depends on the number of kids. It seems that some people breed because they enjoy it. Personally, two was enough then off for the chop

I would have free condoms and free sterilisation for those that want it.

 

[The Esk]

Nanny state for the precious amongst us?

No effective moderation and having an orderly thread - if you continue to disrupt the thread the alternative is to thread ban you - the choice is yours.

 

[piddlywiddly]

No effective moderation and having an orderly thread - if you continue to disrupt the thread the alternative is to thread ban you - the choice is yours.

Ban me then. I genuinely don't see where i have crossed any line. I'm sorry my views don't suit your political allegiance.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And low incomes. And looking at the benefit changes.

For sure, I just figured that fixing out how the existing system works is a much easier proposition than changing the system. Get the 'easier' wins out of the way first I would have thought.

 

[The Esk]

@piddlywiddly you are of course entitled to express your views, and they are welcome here. However can you not do so in such a combative manner. If this thread is to remain open then it requires everyone to conform to the spirit of the thread to date.

Ban me then. I genuinely don't see where i have crossed any line. I'm sorry my views don't suit your political allegiance.

As you will see from the above, your views are welcome, your combative nature is not.

Banned.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Ban me then. I genuinely don't see where i have crossed any line. I'm sorry my views don't suit your political allegiance.

It has nothing to do with political allegiance. This is a forum for Everton fans, it doesn't exist to cause strife amongst us. If we can debate politely then that's great, but if not then the thread will cease to exist, because it really isn't worth it. It's as simple as that.

 

[1966efc]

Some of the problems that Decision Makers (benefit assessors) face are a lack of benefit assessors (must cut civil service numbers!), an archaic and often malfunctioning set of programs (which can lead to manual assessment - a time eater), complex claims - where hours worked part time change each week (zero hour contracts & self employed) and an increasing number of sanctions which generate endless phone calls & what have you.