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The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

Is it time for change?

  • I'm happy with the way thing are. Kenwright and the Board should stay.

  • Kenwright and the board need to go. We need change.


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Liverpool' is the name of the city.Its natural that there would be some promotion for the club that bears the name of the city. Do you deny that feedback from the majority of other clubs is that Everton are one of the best run clubs in the league.Within our financial capabilities we continually exceed expectations, according to many. On the fiels we regualarly supply two or three players for the England team and our squad on paper is much better than all but the very rich few at the top of the league. Everton is a well run, efficiently organised club.

err thats the whole point, you can't claim we are one of the best run clubs then cry poverty.
 
I know exactly what infrastructure means, I'm not quite sure you do tbh.

I don't look for negatives they hit me pretty much every time when it comes how we are run. I went through liverpool airport this morning, Liverpool signage and merchandise everywhere. You wouldn't even know we existed if you were a tourist.
I too was unaware that infrastructure means compliments in a newspaper.

We're obviously out of our depth here.
 
It's just a crappy situation the club has found itself in and it will be the death of us.

Situation its found itself in?

The person who engineered the situation is the same person who could have, if he wanted to, done things differently since 1999.

He chose not to and its on his own head and that its all down to him.
 
Liverpool' is the name of the city.Its natural that there would be some promotion for the club that bears the name of the city. Do you deny that feedback from the majority of other clubs is that Everton are one of the best run clubs in the league.Within our financial capabilities we continually exceed expectations, according to many. On the fiels we regualarly supply two or three players for the England team and our squad on paper is much better than all but the very rich few at the top of the league. Everton is a well run, efficiently organised club.

If the esk is correct then he has well and truly knocked the well run club myth into a cocked hat.
 
I'm curious why we haven't got Transfer Funds to burn.. thinking about this earlier today and trying to "arrange" the first team squad in terms of wages I concluded that, Lukaku is most likely the top earner but, after him, it's anyone's guess and by PL standards we don't seem to have many big earners and there is surely some wiggle room with the new money coming in to invest in more players and increase a few players wages (Stones, McCarthy etc).

I'd posit that the weekly wage bill for the 1st team squad might look a bit like this - taking into account experience, age and previous earnings (sometimes at big clubs like City, United and Chelsea) which will have been much lower for the likes of Besic in Hungary for example:

1 Lukaku circa £90K

2 Mirallas circa £60-80K
3 Baines
4 Jags
5 Howard
6 Barry

7 Cleverley circa £50K
8 Barkley
9 McCarthy
10 Deulofeu
11 Pienaar

12 Coleman circa £40K
13 Kone
14 Naismith
15 Gibson
16 Osman

17 Besic circa £30K
18 Stones
19 McGeady

20 Hibbert circa £20K
21 Oviedo
22 Robles

If that was about right the annual wage bill for the above would be circa £54M so, IIRC, the annual wage bill of £62M (at the last count) is within my estimate when you include those who have left and the other players, management and coaches.

So, it seems to be we aren't burning money like some of the PL (nor can we afford to). I'd guess, outside the top 6 finishing teams (the usual lot) there isn't the pay structure massively different to that which the above earn at Goodison.
 

So is our plan to have a small squad on decent if not fantastic (by PL standards of course) wages? If we break the pay structure by introducing extra players and higher earners (or indeed both) we would, it seems, be risking the steady-ish upper-mid table ship.

So, rather than offer Stones a big wedge we've got him tied to a contract and if Chelsea come along and offer £35M we're £25-30M+ in (after Barnsley's cut) and not risked the wage structure. I get the idea but sometimes it seems we don't risk (anything) to move forward in these matters.
 
Situation its found itself in?

The person who engineered the situation is the same person who could have, if he wanted to, done things differently since 1999.

He chose not to and its on his own head and that its all down to him.
Unfortunately you are probably right but you also have to concede that you can't a) expect Bill to hand over his shares at below market price and b) give up ownership of the club without first having those shares bought at fair market price.

You wouldn't do it and neither would I which is why I say it's a crappy situation. It's probably why King's Dock failed as well.

btw - Fair market price is not the current market price before we go down that blind alley again.
 
I'm curious why we haven't got Transfer Funds to burn.. thinking about this earlier today and trying to "arrange" the first team squad in terms of wages I concluded that, Lukaku is most likely the top earner but, after him, it's anyone's guess and by PL standards we don't seem to have many big earners and there is surely some wiggle room with the new money coming in to invest in more players and increase a few players wages (Stones, McCarthy etc).

I'd posit that the weekly wage bill for the 1st team squad might look a bit like this - taking into account experience, age and previous earnings (sometimes at big clubs like City, United and Chelsea) which will have been much lower for the likes of Besic in Hungary for example:

1 Lukaku circa £90K

2 Mirallas circa £60-80K
3 Baines
4 Jags
5 Howard
6 Barry

7 Cleverley circa £50K
8 Barkley
9 McCarthy
10 Deulofeu
11 Pienaar

12 Coleman circa £40K
13 Kone
14 Naismith
15 Gibson
16 Osman

17 Besic circa £30K
18 Stones
19 McGeady

20 Hibbert circa £20K
21 Oviedo
22 Robles

If that was about right the annual wage bill for the above would be circa £54M so, IIRC, the annual wage bill of £62M (at the last count) is within my estimate when you include those who have left and the other players, management and coaches.

So, it seems to be we aren't burning money like some of the PL (nor can we afford to). I'd guess, outside the top 6 finishing teams (the usual lot) there isn't the pay structure massively different to that which the above earn at Goodison.
I think you probably aren't a million miles away although I think Barkley was reported to be on 65K.
 

So is our plan to have a small squad on decent if not fantastic (by PL standards of course) wages? If we break the pay structure by introducing extra players and higher earners (or indeed both) we would, it seems, be risking the steady-ish upper-mid table ship.

So, rather than offer Stones a big wedge we've got him tied to a contract and if Chelsea come along and offer £35M we're £25-30M+ in (after Barnsley's cut) and not risked the wage structure. I get the idea but sometimes it seems we don't risk (anything) to move forward in these matters.
That's why we aren't in for Yarmolenko or Konoplyka etc. They would want 100K and we won't break our wage structure for one player. It's the reason why a stadium is so important because until we move forward and have a means to improve our revenue in a sustainable way (not through debt or investment) then we will never be able to sign or keep the players to even think of challenging top 4 and pretty soon not even top 6.
 

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