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The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%

  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%
  • Total voters
    629
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If you attempted five seconds of jogging you would cause tsunamis in Wales before having a massive aneurism you massive, massive wool.

Using the word apologist makes you qualify for Toffeeweb and the assorted beauts on there. You're no blue.
 
I heard your Mother got both her front and back door looted in the riots and she only charged them 20p due to the massive amount of traffic she had.

I will not apoligise for using the word apologist.
 
I bet you were throwing a brick through Farmfoods at the slightest hint of trouble in your rat packed capital of the Wirral this week.

Using apologist makes you look like everyone else who uses it, a tit. Its a convenient label used by small minded obsessive beauts who do same channel ranting.

Laughing at you here.
 

chicoazul said:
Its not minority who think they're bells mate. Organised, disciplined and effective? They shouted loud mate. The ground move collapsing was as much to do with them as the Liverpool sale was to do with SOS.
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I dont think anyone inside the club would say KEIOC had no effect. They threatened to sue them to shut them up. The biggest reason Destination Kirkby failed was becuase it was unlawful. But plenty of things unlawful have been disregarded if a big business would benefit. What KEIOC did was to keep the pressure on by always offering a Plan B when the club's biggest argument was that there was no Plan B - not even staying at GP because it was 'falling down' and about to 'fail' safety legislaton. They're most substantial contribution to the decision to reject the scheme was arguing alongside KRAG that a 50-55,000 seater stadium was way above what the town could handle...the Sec of State addressed that by stating that a stadium wasn't out of the question but would have to be reduced capacity - and therefore not worth Everton's involvement - that the larger stadium would be detrimental to the lives of people in Kirkby. That was their part of the debate that they handled...the combined local authorities who were against Knowsley had the task of showing how trade would be depressed in their areas.

Even to argue that it's open to speculation whether KEIOC directly impacted on the decision to reject the scheme isn't correct. They had a task and carried it out, and the Sec of State agreed with them and with KRAG...and with the combined authorities on the stuff they were arguing.
 
davek said:
I dont think anyone inside the club would say KEIOC had no effect. They threatened to sue them to shut them up. The biggest reason Destination Kirkby failed was becuase it was unlawful. But plenty of things unlawful have been disregarded if a big business would benefit. What KEIOC did was to keep the pressure on by always offering a Plan B when the club's biggest argument was that there was no Plan B - not even staying at GP because it was 'falling down' and about to 'fail' safety legislaton. They're most substantial contribution to the decision to reject the scheme was arguing alongside KRAG that a 50-55,000 seater stadium was way above what the town could handle...the Sec of State addressed that by stating that a stadium wasn't out of the question but would have to be reduced capacity - and therefore not worth Everton's involvement - that the larger stadium would be detrimental to the lives of people in Kirkby. That was their part of the debate that they handled...the combined local authorities who were against Knowsley had the task of showing how trade would be depressed in their areas.

Even to argue that it's open to speculation whether KEIOC directly impacted on the decision to reject the scheme isn't correct. They had a task and carried it out, and the Sec of State agreed with them and with KRAG...and with the combined authorities on the stuff they were arguing.
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I supported Kirkby initially. The changing point came when Kenwright et al, under pressure had to concede that even at the most positive optimistic projections, the stadium move would only net an extra £5 million a season for the club. It was sold to us as a financial banker. £5 million a season is nothing. Not only that but I had every faith that the move would've been detrimental to our fan base and thus that £5 million would've rapidly diminished to nought.

I can't help but admit that in this case Davek and others were right. And the amount of propaganda coming from Kenwright and the club that was frankly conceit was deplorable.

Increasingly I'm coming to the conclusion the board is either incompetent, misled or has ulterior motives.

And I, as many of you are aware, am a long standing supporter of the board. The silence over the park end annexe is telling.

I still believe forcing a sale to the first bidder is the wrong way to go about things. But the weight of goodwill I had towards Kenwright has been severely tested.

And I've also just realised I've kicked myslef out of the club I started.
 
neonleon said:
I supported Kirkby initially. The changing point came when Kenwright et al, under pressure had to concede that even at the most positive optimistic projections, the stadium move would only net an extra £5 million a season for the club. It was sold to us as a financial banker. £5 million a season is nothing. Not only that but I had every faith that the move would've been detrimental to our fan base and thus that £5 million would've rapidly diminished to nought.

I can't help but admit that in this case Davek and others were right. And the amount of propaganda coming from Kenwright and the club that was frankly conceit was deplorable.

Increasingly I'm coming to the conclusion the board is either incompetent, misled or has ulterior motives.

And I, as many of you are aware, am a long standing supporter of the board. The silence over the park end annexe is telling.

I still believe forcing a sale to the first bidder is the wrong way to go about things. But the weight of goodwill I had towards Kenwright has been severely tested.

And I've also just realised I've kicked myslef out of the club I started.
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The more it went on, the more it became apparent (even to the club I think) that DK was a complete mirage. Knowsley Council were demanding more and more in terms of the club paying for infrastructure development outside the stadium and their own use of the new ground, and the new ground was facing more and more limits to its use, that even the Everton board must have heaved a huge sigh of relief when it was rejected. Terrible lack of judgement all round...and they carried that on with the annexe fiasco. They're completely incapable of making good decisions. It isn't that they dont want to make them, it's just that the quality of people employed by Everton to make crucial decisions is piss poor. Whatever plan they have next (if they have one) will fall flat on its face too for this very reason.
 


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