The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[steken1]

I see both if I'm honest mate + and -!

So while I wouldn't call him buisness man of our generation he defo doesn't deserve an all expensive paid one way trip up Calvery! The whole debate for me is balance, not black or white, for or against in fact it ruins the context of issues, comes down more to camps.

Anyhow I think all posts in the thread should feature IMO disclaimers.

Hard to see positives when £80m+ liabilities are added to 10 yr income locks, 3yr outsourcing deals and low value, below peer group partnership deals are being signed on behalf of a business that is supposedly up for sale?

Each to thier own. Positions are so entrenched that my words will have no effect on anyone who deosn't already agree with me.

 

[Ihaters]

I see both if I'm honest mate + and -!

So while I wouldn't call him buisness man of our generation he defo doesn't deserve an all expensive paid one way trip up Calvery! The whole debate for me is balance, not black or white, for or against in fact it ruins the context of issues, comes down more to camps.

Anyhow I think all posts in the thread should feature IMO disclaimers.

I can also see positives as well as the negatives and whilst the negatives do outweigh the positives from a club perspective, the positives outweigh the negatives from a football perspective.
View them both and the board has to be bought out for the future of the club, but I am glad we them instead of who they replaced despite the negatives they bought with them.

 

[davek]

The whole debate is defunct because people view it as an absolulte or black and white, the issue in its entirety is a greay one with positives and negatives, an opinion given in this thread as absolute isn't likely to be worthwhile or for that matter factual, just a catharsis for subjective hope without a method to objectivity.

The only posts worth reading are ones that acknowledge positves and an objectivity critique - certainly there have been plenty of both since this regime has been in place for me after living through it and what went before.

The simplicity of Kewronging or Kenwrighting point scoring is just futile - its a far more balanced and complex issue then some of the simplicity of the majority of points for me.

Just to be clear I'm not really arsed about who is control of the club, once I think objectively the club has certain capacities.

I love the way you try and position yourself as an honest objective broker between anti and pro Kenwrighters. You're so much on Kenwrong's side in reality I half expect to see you in Blood Brothers.

 

[TheFinnFan]

lads how rich our owners actually are, does anybody know?

 

[Neiler]

I can also see positives as well as the negatives and whilst the negatives do outweigh the positives from a club perspective, the positives outweigh the negatives from a football perspective.
View them both and the board has to be bought out for the future of the club, but I am glad we them instead of who they replaced despite the negatives they bought with them.

Ha ha before I launch into income distribution management as a positive of coparitive PL turnover increase from our debt position when they took over!

I think we will meet there I don't disagree hugely with those themes, yet they share a simboite relationship - one can't be successfull without the other, as we found out tragically in the first six montages of last season - Kenwrong! But then the next six ......

 

[Chang Elephant]

How much working knowledge do you have as I would like to understand if you are qualified to make your assertion that lease financing is a stupid thing to do?

I would still like to understand your assertions that AGM's were necessarily stopped because minority shareholders were trying to alter the voting arrangements and take effective control. This being despite the effective veto majority shareholders have over any vote being done by a show of hands rather than a poll.

How did your working knowledge of company law bring you to that "unusual" conclusion ?

 

[Ihaters]

Ha ha before I launch into income distribution management as a positive of coparitive PL turnover increase from our debt position when they took over!

I think we will meet there I don't disagree hugely with those themes, yet they share a simboite relationship - one can't be successfull without the other, as we found out tragically in the first six montages of last season - Kenwrong! But then the next six ......

Not sure which themes you refer to.. assuming success on and off the pitch which I would disagree with you on..
Whilst one helps the other, one can be good on the pitch and bad off it or good of the pitch and bad on it..
We had finishes of 4th and European seasons and constant high finishes yet we're still skint for example
QPR for the other way around, spent hundreds of millions.. ****e.
Or that may not be what you were referring to its a strange answer you've quoted me with.

 

[davek]

We're sorted lads: the new Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, is an Evertonian. From the BBC's Hugh Pym:

Hugh Pym â€￾@BBCHughPym Sir Mervyn King says Mark Carney knows "a great deal" about British football - and my sources tell me hes an Everton fan

Open the vaults up Carney FFS.

 

[Chang Elephant]

We're sorted lads: the new Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, is an Evertonian. From the BBC's Hugh Pym:

Hugh Pym â€￾@BBCHughPym Sir Mervyn King says Mark Carney knows "a great deal" about British football - and my sources tell me hes an Everton fan

Open the vaults up Carney FFS.

Is Mark Carney:

1) Coach
2) NSNO Chris
3) Neiller
4) Posting as all three

If any of these options is correct it's time to sell up and emigrate

 

[davek]

Is Mark Carney:

1) Coach
2) NSNO Chris
3) Neiller
4) Posting as all three

If any of these options is correct it's time to sell up and emigrate

If he is, the economy is ****ed.

 

[Allezfan]

View them both and the board has to be bought out for the future of the club, but I am glad we them instead of who they replaced despite the negatives they bought with them.

Peter Johnson, Mike Walker and Brett Angell.

What a depressing year that was. So depressing in fact even 18 years later, our main desire is still just anyone better than those three. Of course since Ken Bates, Alex McCleish and Robert Earnshaw would also be an improvement, I don't view being a step up as much of an accomplishment myself.

 

[peteblue]

If he is, the economy is ****ed.

But we still get Messi, right.......

 

[Slavan]

sell cheap, rent high

im sorry, but the finch farm issue is one of many which demonstrates the short term desperation of our chairman to hang on to his train set.
If he can keep the banks at the door, he will be happy as long as he can remain in the spotlight and have his ego massaged.

 

[peteblue]

sell cheap, rent high

im sorry, but the finch farm issue is one of many which demonstrates the short term desperation of our chairman to hang on to his train set.
If he can keep the banks at the door, he will be happy as long as he can remain in the spotlight and have his ego massaged.

It's called business. Sometimes you have to do things that you may not want to in order to stay in business. Fans should worry more about what happens on the pitch instead of who owns the bleeding training facility, imho.......

 

[Neiler]

I can confirm i am Mark Carney, and you will soon be spending Euros, means we will prob have a turnover of over 100+mill.

Kenisokish!