andy4efc
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How much did Pellegrini spend at Malaga and Villarreal? Can't imagine it to be bucket loads.
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How much did Pellegrini spend at Malaga and Villarreal? Can't imagine it to be bucket loads.
Jags..class
Player Valuation: £70m
Recken his brother is using our name to flush out clubs who are keen on him.
Coffee and TV
Player Valuation: £25m
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The Idealist: What Frank de Boer can offer Everton that Ronald Koeman can’t
By Mohamed Moallim
Posted on May 13, 2016
De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football.
De Boer made his senior professional debut with Ajax in 1988 and represented the Amsterdam giants for a decade, winning five league titles and European Cup in 1995, and the clubs overarching philosophy has rubbed off on him.
As a guardian of the ‘Ajax school’, De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football. His ultimate aim is to control the ebb and flow – playing one-touch combination football – through keeping possession and when a gap appears (normally through the opposition becoming tired) they can finish with a sweeping move.
To some, this particular style is frowned upon but De Boer sees it otherwise. It conserves energy which comes in handy when his side is robbed off the ball. In this scenario it needs to be regained in three seconds.
De Boer demands his side to press the moment they lose possession, seen as the perfect time because the opposing player who has just won the ball is vulnerable, he’s wasted energy to win it.
Having footballers at his disposal who are universal, comfortable in multiple roles and positions, is fundamental. This allows for positional interchange (players rotating positions).
The process is a gradual one. It took until his second full season in Amsterdam before everything came together. His strive for footballing utopia is commendable but he needs the utmost of patience. Even so, the football remains constant, De Boer gets the fundamentals done which has more often than not been the difference at times.
Being a former world class defender he knows the importance of defensive organisation which has been Martinez’s Achilles heel. Ajax last season kept the most clean-sheets and conceded the least amount in the Eredivisie.
Shape
Ajax most commonly used a 4-3-3 formation under De Boer.
De Boer’s system is nominally an orthodox “Dutch 4-3-3″. A formation he knows like the back of his hand. Each individual within the set-up is required to carry out basic tasks.
At the centre, and key to everything, is his midfield triumvirate which consists of three playmakers: deep-lying – sitting in front of the back-four – controlling and incisive. All of whom need to be sharp and intelligent passers.
Another crucial part of De Boer’s outlook is wing-play – he usually desires the orthodox kind but doesn’t mind dabbling with inverted wide-forwards, regardless both have to equally work hard going backwards as forward.
The lone forward needs to be part-finisher and part-creator. As for the defence, both centre backs must be strong passers as they are required to start the build-up play. Consequently, the Dutchman prefers a goalkeeper comfortable with his feet (sweeper-keeper), thus is able to recycle possession.
Man-management
Like Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads.
Much of De Boer’s success at Ajax was down to peerless man-management. He strongly believes each individual’s strength combines to make a unified eleven: the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. No one player is above the group.
With their average age in the early 20’s his duties extended far beyond simply coaching describing himself as a “surrogate dad”. There are two type of coaches: a ‘people’s manager’ and ‘teacher’, with De Boer being the latter.
Much like his mentor Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads as it is easier to imprint his philosophy and leave his mark.
In his five-and-a-half-year spell he’s promoted up to 25 players from Ajax’s esteemed academy and that commitment to youth development will stay with him.
Many who he’s previously worked with have spoken about their growth under him notably Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderweireld and Daley Blind (who he converted into a controlling midfielder from left-back).
And that is essentially what the Hoorn native wants: to be renowned as someone who improves others, someone like John Stones could benefit from his knowledge.
The Future
De Boer has spoken about shadowing Pep Guardiola and Diego Simeone before he takes a new job.
Wherever De Boer ends up he’ll be without his trusted backroom staff – including Dennis Bergkamp – as they will all remain in Amsterdam.
So, it’s fascinating to see the makeup of his new team. Also, from a cultural perspective, it will be interesting to see how he copes especially if he is England-bound.
De Boer knows flexibility is essential. In recent past similar idealists, such as Martinez, have allowed their stubbornness to get the better of them and it’s been their downfall.
In an attempt to counter this, whilst continuing his education, De Boer has spoken about shadowing the likes of Diego Simeone and Pep Guardiola, to get more insight into how those with passionate beliefs have succeeded in Europe’s more demanding leagues.
The Idealist: What Frank de Boer can offer Everton that Ronald Koeman can’t
By Mohamed Moallim
Posted on May 13, 2016
De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football.
De Boer made his senior professional debut with Ajax in 1988 and represented the Amsterdam giants for a decade, winning five league titles and European Cup in 1995, and the clubs overarching philosophy has rubbed off on him.
As a guardian of the ‘Ajax school’, De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football. His ultimate aim is to control the ebb and flow – playing one-touch combination football – through keeping possession and when a gap appears (normally through the opposition becoming tired) they can finish with a sweeping move.
To some, this particular style is frowned upon but De Boer sees it otherwise. It conserves energy which comes in handy when his side is robbed off the ball. In this scenario it needs to be regained in three seconds.
De Boer demands his side to press the moment they lose possession, seen as the perfect time because the opposing player who has just won the ball is vulnerable, he’s wasted energy to win it.
Having footballers at his disposal who are universal, comfortable in multiple roles and positions, is fundamental. This allows for positional interchange (players rotating positions).
The process is a gradual one. It took until his second full season in Amsterdam before everything came together. His strive for footballing utopia is commendable but he needs the utmost of patience. Even so, the football remains constant, De Boer gets the fundamentals done which has more often than not been the difference at times.
Being a former world class defender he knows the importance of defensive organisation which has been Martinez’s Achilles heel. Ajax last season kept the most clean-sheets and conceded the least amount in the Eredivisie.
Shape
Ajax most commonly used a 4-3-3 formation under De Boer.
De Boer’s system is nominally an orthodox “Dutch 4-3-3″. A formation he knows like the back of his hand. Each individual within the set-up is required to carry out basic tasks.
At the centre, and key to everything, is his midfield triumvirate which consists of three playmakers: deep-lying – sitting in front of the back-four – controlling and incisive. All of whom need to be sharp and intelligent passers.
Another crucial part of De Boer’s outlook is wing-play – he usually desires the orthodox kind but doesn’t mind dabbling with inverted wide-forwards, regardless both have to equally work hard going backwards as forward.
The lone forward needs to be part-finisher and part-creator. As for the defence, both centre backs must be strong passers as they are required to start the build-up play. Consequently, the Dutchman prefers a goalkeeper comfortable with his feet (sweeper-keeper), thus is able to recycle possession.
Man-management
Like Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads.
Much of De Boer’s success at Ajax was down to peerless man-management. He strongly believes each individual’s strength combines to make a unified eleven: the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. No one player is above the group.
With their average age in the early 20’s his duties extended far beyond simply coaching describing himself as a “surrogate dad”. There are two type of coaches: a ‘people’s manager’ and ‘teacher’, with De Boer being the latter.
Much like his mentor Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads as it is easier to imprint his philosophy and leave his mark.
In his five-and-a-half-year spell he’s promoted up to 25 players from Ajax’s esteemed academy and that commitment to youth development will stay with him.
Many who he’s previously worked with have spoken about their growth under him notably Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderweireld and Daley Blind (who he converted into a controlling midfielder from left-back).
And that is essentially what the Hoorn native wants: to be renowned as someone who improves others, someone like John Stones could benefit from his knowledge.
The Future
De Boer has spoken about shadowing Pep Guardiola and Diego Simeone before he takes a new job.
Wherever De Boer ends up he’ll be without his trusted backroom staff – including Dennis Bergkamp – as they will all remain in Amsterdam.
So, it’s fascinating to see the makeup of his new team. Also, from a cultural perspective, it will be interesting to see how he copes especially if he is England-bound.
De Boer knows flexibility is essential. In recent past similar idealists, such as Martinez, have allowed their stubbornness to get the better of them and it’s been their downfall.
In an attempt to counter this, whilst continuing his education, De Boer has spoken about shadowing the likes of Diego Simeone and Pep Guardiola, to get more insight into how those with passionate beliefs have succeeded in Europe’s more demanding leagues.
Liamliverpool86
Player Valuation: £8m
probably not much but he's had that taste now .. his targets in his mind will be top dollar no doubt
Coming to a ground near you soon.
Mogwai
The Hiphopopotamus Rhymenoceros
My girlfriend is offended by this statement...
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
Agreed, she is the exception to the rule. Truly wonderful.
The more I read about De Boer the more I get the feeling he's just a more up-market version of Moyes. Consistent? Yes. Exceptional? No.
Yes he won 4 league titles in Holland but McClaren won one with FC Twente FFS, it's not very hard to do if you have a half-decent team who can get a run going. Moyes' best sides probably would have pished it every year.
Also worth pointing out that he didn't win any cups whilst he was there and they always got knocked out by lesser sides. Also failed to win the game that literally decided the title, his final game, the other week. They never got anywhere in the Champions League either, never beat anyone bigger than them or gave anyone any reason to think they could seriously go all the way.
For me he just doesn't sound like a big game manager. Probably great at setting up his side to beat teams they should be beating, the odd game aside, but when it's a game supporters REALLY want to win and there's pressure like a cup match or against a big team in Europe they're always on the losing end, could call them flunkers.
Maybe I'm being harsh and if he does come he'll hopefully prove me very wrong, I'd absolutely love nothing better. Something about him just isn't getting my blood pumping though.
Yes he won 4 league titles in Holland but McClaren won one with FC Twente FFS, it's not very hard to do if you have a half-decent team who can get a run going. Moyes' best sides probably would have pished it every year.
Also worth pointing out that he didn't win any cups whilst he was there and they always got knocked out by lesser sides. Also failed to win the game that literally decided the title, his final game, the other week. They never got anywhere in the Champions League either, never beat anyone bigger than them or gave anyone any reason to think they could seriously go all the way.
For me he just doesn't sound like a big game manager. Probably great at setting up his side to beat teams they should be beating, the odd game aside, but when it's a game supporters REALLY want to win and there's pressure like a cup match or against a big team in Europe they're always on the losing end, could call them flunkers.
Maybe I'm being harsh and if he does come he'll hopefully prove me very wrong, I'd absolutely love nothing better. Something about him just isn't getting my blood pumping though.
Frank De Bore
Player Valuation: £750k
Frank is the man, he will not be having nonsense from the rich kid players in the squad. He has the tactics to win the Eredivisie many times and the Cruijff Shield also in the Netherlands
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Thing is, we see winning the Dutch league as the same as winning the Scottish one. Not much competition.
Also,we hear his team are pretty dull, and his tactics are not all that.
Sennott Street
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I admit, I have never watched a match of a Frank De Boer managed team. We need someone to instill discipline, but not be a dictator. He needs to be able to organise a defence. He needs to be a good coach or hire good 1st team coaches to develop players. He needs to emphasise attacking football, but not in such a way where our build up is slow. And he needs to be able to affect a game tacitally, through a change of shape or substitutes. And he needs to commit to bringing deserving youth players through. If De Boer possess these qualities, I'm all for him.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
His style is going to need a few seasons to take effect at Everton. Our players won't succeed with it after being lazy for the past 2 seasons. Will need new players. And many of them.http://www.squawka.com/news/the-ide...-offer-everton-that-ronald-koeman-cant/669294
The Idealist: What Frank de Boer can offer Everton that Ronald Koeman can’t
By Mohamed Moallim
Posted on May 13, 2016
De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football.
De Boer made his senior professional debut with Ajax in 1988 and represented the Amsterdam giants for a decade, winning five league titles and European Cup in 1995, and the clubs overarching philosophy has rubbed off on him.
As a guardian of the ‘Ajax school’, De Boer preaches a high-risk, high-reward brand of football. His ultimate aim is to control the ebb and flow – playing one-touch combination football – through keeping possession and when a gap appears (normally through the opposition becoming tired) they can finish with a sweeping move.
To some, this particular style is frowned upon but De Boer sees it otherwise. It conserves energy which comes in handy when his side is robbed off the ball. In this scenario it needs to be regained in three seconds.
De Boer demands his side to press the moment they lose possession, seen as the perfect time because the opposing player who has just won the ball is vulnerable, he’s wasted energy to win it.
Having footballers at his disposal who are universal, comfortable in multiple roles and positions, is fundamental. This allows for positional interchange (players rotating positions).
The process is a gradual one. It took until his second full season in Amsterdam before everything came together. His strive for footballing utopia is commendable but he needs the utmost of patience. Even so, the football remains constant, De Boer gets the fundamentals done which has more often than not been the difference at times.
Being a former world class defender he knows the importance of defensive organisation which has been Martinez’s Achilles heel. Ajax last season kept the most clean-sheets and conceded the least amount in the Eredivisie.
Shape
Ajax most commonly used a 4-3-3 formation under De Boer.
De Boer’s system is nominally an orthodox “Dutch 4-3-3″. A formation he knows like the back of his hand. Each individual within the set-up is required to carry out basic tasks.
At the centre, and key to everything, is his midfield triumvirate which consists of three playmakers: deep-lying – sitting in front of the back-four – controlling and incisive. All of whom need to be sharp and intelligent passers.
Another crucial part of De Boer’s outlook is wing-play – he usually desires the orthodox kind but doesn’t mind dabbling with inverted wide-forwards, regardless both have to equally work hard going backwards as forward.
The lone forward needs to be part-finisher and part-creator. As for the defence, both centre backs must be strong passers as they are required to start the build-up play. Consequently, the Dutchman prefers a goalkeeper comfortable with his feet (sweeper-keeper), thus is able to recycle possession.
Man-management
Like Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads.
Much of De Boer’s success at Ajax was down to peerless man-management. He strongly believes each individual’s strength combines to make a unified eleven: the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. No one player is above the group.
With their average age in the early 20’s his duties extended far beyond simply coaching describing himself as a “surrogate dad”. There are two type of coaches: a ‘people’s manager’ and ‘teacher’, with De Boer being the latter.
Much like his mentor Louis van Gaal, he prefers a squad needing guidance rather than full of experienced heads as it is easier to imprint his philosophy and leave his mark.
In his five-and-a-half-year spell he’s promoted up to 25 players from Ajax’s esteemed academy and that commitment to youth development will stay with him.
Many who he’s previously worked with have spoken about their growth under him notably Christian Eriksen, Toby Alderweireld and Daley Blind (who he converted into a controlling midfielder from left-back).
And that is essentially what the Hoorn native wants: to be renowned as someone who improves others, someone like John Stones could benefit from his knowledge.
The Future
De Boer has spoken about shadowing Pep Guardiola and Diego Simeone before he takes a new job.
Wherever De Boer ends up he’ll be without his trusted backroom staff – including Dennis Bergkamp – as they will all remain in Amsterdam.
So, it’s fascinating to see the makeup of his new team. Also, from a cultural perspective, it will be interesting to see how he copes especially if he is England-bound.
De Boer knows flexibility is essential. In recent past similar idealists, such as Martinez, have allowed their stubbornness to get the better of them and it’s been their downfall.
In an attempt to counter this, whilst continuing his education, De Boer has spoken about shadowing the likes of Diego Simeone and Pep Guardiola, to get more insight into how those with passionate beliefs have succeeded in Europe’s more demanding leagues.
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