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Just finished S. - it was a massive let-down. I was really looking forward to this, but it falls very flat once you take away the novelty factor. It's a great-looking book, and they've gone all-out on the design of it, but it's more an object to admire than it is a convincing read. Many have said that the book-within-the-book - Ship of Theseus - is a great read in itself, but I just couldn't engage with it. The scribbles in the margins are interesting in fits and starts, but the whole experience just felt oddly unsatisfying and underdeveloped. It's actually a really quick read, and while I don't exactly regret buying it, it's hard to recommend. Life's way too short for books that don't hit the spot.
 
Indeed !

I am now a lot stricter with my time when it comes to books and not afraid to bin one off if it's not doing it for me.
I wish I'd binned off the Booker prize winner Shuggie Bain . I've just finished it. What a tale of unrelenting ghastliness.
The thing is we've been here before in Scotland with writers like Welsh, McIlvanney and Kelman but at least with them the alcoholic misery is leavened occasionally by some wit.
I suppose it's a book for the millennium generation who missed out first time round. Stuart can obviously write, but I'll not be sampling his second novel.
 
Stumbled upon this excellent blog summary on the evolution of epic fantasy:


Good read if you like the genre. He's got a nice way of putting stuff in context - like bestsellers from years back that might seem pretty bad nowadays (e.g. Sword of Shannara), why they were successful and how they shaped things.
 
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Just finished this. It's grim but brilliantly portrays poverty, addiction and abuse in 1980s Glasgow. Shuggie ends up as the only one of his siblings who cares for his alcoholic mother Agnes. It is raw and in some places heart-breaking. I'm not sure I liked any of the characters but well worth a read.

Really good point about the likeable characters. I did personally like Shuggie but the rest weren’t easy to warm to at all, although you could say that adds to the grittiness.
 

I've heard of that author in my quest to find a decent book on Caesar's mini invasion of the South East .
Is there a decent bit of that event in the book because I can't find any decent books on it that aren't Ladybird or bloody Oxbridge ?
The first chapter covers Caesar's attempts at invasion but only for a couple of pages, there's much more detail regarding the second attempt by Aulus Plautius and what followed, Boudicca/Hadrian etc. Schama is great but he does assume the reader has a fair bit of knowledge already of what he's writing about.

Peter Berresford Ellis wrote a very accessible account of Caesar in Britain many years ago, not sure if it's still in print though.
 
I wish I'd binned off the Booker prize winner Shuggie Bain . I've just finished it. What a tale of unrelenting ghastliness.
The thing is we've been here before in Scotland with writers like Welsh, McIlvanney and Kelman but at least with them the alcoholic misery is leavened occasionally by some wit.
I suppose it's a book for the millennium generation who missed out first time round. Stuart can obviously write, but I'll not be sampling his second novel.
Hmmm... I bought this just last week but am getting less inclined to make a start on it anytime soon. I also read somewhere that it portrays the mining community in a horribly negative light, so I'm a bit wary of it now. Having read books by the other authors you mention (albeit many years ago), it doesn't sound like this one brings much to the party. Anyway, I made a start on Lanark last night, so I won't be reading anything else for a wee while yet lol
 
I wish I'd binned off the Booker prize winner Shuggie Bain . I've just finished it. What a tale of unrelenting ghastliness.
The thing is we've been here before in Scotland with writers like Welsh, McIlvanney and Kelman but at least with them the alcoholic misery is leavened occasionally by some wit.
I suppose it's a book for the millennium generation who missed out first time round. Stuart can obviously write, but I'll not be sampling his second novel.

Don’t think the millennium generation tag is that accurate. It’s not a brilliant novel and I’d be surprised if the author follows up with anything great, but it’s a good portrayal of alcoholism and how it impacts those close to the alcoholic.
 
Hmmm... I bought this just last week but am getting less inclined to make a start on it anytime soon. I also read somewhere that it portrays the mining community in a horribly negative light, so I'm a bit wary of it now. Having read books by the other authors you mention (albeit many years ago), it doesn't sound like this one brings much to the party. Anyway, I made a start on Lanark last night, so I won't be reading anything else for a wee while yet lol

It doesn’t portray a mining community, it portrays a community that was dependent on a mine that has closed.
 
Don’t think the millennium generation tag is that accurate. It’s not a brilliant novel and I’d be surprised if the author follows up with anything great, but it’s a good portrayal of alcoholism and how it impacts those close to the alcoholic.
I agree to an extent and in the cold light of day I'm willing to admit it's an accurate portrayal of alcoholism.
Foolishly, I was expecting something different to the litany of Scots misery that I've read so often.
 

It doesn’t portray a mining community, it portrays a community that was dependent on a mine that has closed.
Former mining community, then? Even though it's now more than a generation on from when the colliery closed, in and around my home town there are many people who still consider it to be a mining community - maybe because it never really recovered from the pit closure. I should point out to them that it's not a mining town, as it's been decades since a lump of coal was mined from the seabed. I'm sure I'll get a great response - can I send you my dental bill? Cheers ;)
 
Former mining community, then? Even though it's now more than a generation on from when the colliery closed, in and around my home town there are many people who still consider it to be a mining community - maybe because it never really recovered from the pit closure. I should point out to them that it's not a mining town, as it's been decades since a lump of coal was mined from the seabed. I'm sure I'll get a great response - can I send you my dental bill? Cheers ;)

My point was that it describes the bleak reality of a community deprived of the industry it was dependent on, not how it was before.

You can send me your dental bill but I cant promise I’ll be able to afford to pay.
 
Exodus Ark by J N Chaney

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Blurb
Kent-9464 was made for war.
But now, forsaken by those who created him, he has been relegated to head of security for a colony ship called Exodus Ark. It’s a one way trip to a new planet far away from everything he's ever known, and the trip is said to take hundreds of years.
The colony world is another Earth, a new beginning for mankind... and completely uninhabited.
But when Kent is prematurely woken up from his stasis pod and told by the ship’s AI that they are under attack by an unknown alien threat, he must recall his years of training and once again become the man he used to be.



Better than average reviews on Amazon and Goodreads, author cranks out plenty of work so I figured with the interesting blurb this one would be worth a go.
It started decently enough with a nice back story. Hero is put into a dangerous situation along with a ships A.I. that seems to be having internal conflicts. Sort of a mashup of the films 2001, Alien and Pandorum.
A couple of things stood out that eventually led me to just give up on this.
The story is told in the 1st person rather than the 3rd person, now sometimes this works, but to do so it needs to be in the hands of a very skilled writer (if it isn't an autobiography), and unfortunately, this isn't the case here.
Some horrific plot holes do not help and after the initial 50 or so pages of decentish storytelling, everything became much of the same. At the 50% mark I couldn't justify spending any more time on this and gave up.

Reviews
1. The book starts well, but after about a hundred pages I was getting quite bored, there was a lot of repetitive padding and the author clearly wanted to be quite mysterious about what was actually happening. My problem was although I found Kent an interesting character, I knew very little about the ship, its capabilities, or even the number of crew and I was becoming quite frustrated trying to understand what was happening and how the ship had got into the mess.
2. This book was definitely enjoyable. However, at the same time, I felt it was a bit of a missed opportunity. I really like the core story idea. There’s a lot that can be done with that plot. The main protagonist is good as well. At least I liked him. He is competent, kicks ass and is in general the type of character I like as a main protagonist. However, as it turns out I found the book “just” good. With all these good ingredients I felt a bit like the author could have done better. I felt like he squandered an opportunity here.
3. A good read with interesting ideas. I enjoyed the issues with the two AIs, it kept me guessing for a while. Looking forward to book2
4. The premise is good and the ideas solid and but the potential is untapped. If this was an early work of his I might understand it, but this is recent stuff. It is just too repetitive and things that could be interesting seem to get glossed over.



I agree with all of these

Price
Free on kindle unlimited - probably the only saving grace.

A decent idea for a story but poor execution.
 
I enjoyed the CJ Sansom series.
The story of a hunchbacked lawyer living and working during the reign of The Tudors.
Shardlake series
  • Dissolution (2003)
  • Dark Fire(2004)
  • Sovereign (2006)
  • Revelation (2008)
  • Heartstone(2010)
  • Lamentation (2014)
  • Tombland (2018)
 
Another one from Matt Haig, this fella is good. He is it seems , a man who has his battles with mental health, and writes about it through his characters. This one, a lady who attempts suicide and arrives at a Library full of different lives she may have lived if she'd made different choices, and has the opportunity to sample them before she passes on.
Good,clever read and in line with the other books he's written. Not read a bad one yet.
 

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