the relationship between the everton and their young players

[the sniderman]

do u think there is a problem buddies or if it no different at other clubs that any young budding players coming thru face so much tough times from their own fans?? does it help them or the everton?? maybe it is best that no special treatment is given and every1 earns their place.

 

[DaChunk]

If you aren't critical of young players you end up with Tom Davies playing 100 times for us.

 

[orly]

If you are a good Everton player like Trophies Regularly (Ross Barkley) we should love you and hold you to our bosom

If you are a lazy awful leech like Tom Davies you must be CRUSHED (metaphorically)

 

[Tigger]

It's just jealousy from lots of has beens and never beens towards our young, stylish, stankey rich stars. Every clubs support that's not winning anything will have the same feelings towards their players, we need to spread more love to see them flourish in this harsh environment.

 

[AndyC]

If you are a good Everton player like Trophies Regularly (Ross Barkley) we should love you and hold you to our bosom

If you are a lazy awful leech like Tom Davies you must be CRUSHED (metaphorically)

What about those who vote for him ?????

Wolves away - MotM voting...

Votes: 135.4%

• lungo
• mightymoyes
• irishtony1878
• corben
• [B]orly[/B]
• Daveysgingerlovechild
• Woolverhampton_Blue
• Clemenza
• Zezti
• Bwana
• The Blue Watch
• PhilRegan
• Vhaldemar

Southampton at home - MotM voting...

Votes: 20.6%

• [B]orly[/B]
• Douglas Maclure

 

[orly]

What about those who vote for him ?????

Wolves away - MotM voting...

Votes: 135.4%

• lungo
• mightymoyes
• irishtony1878
• corben
• [B]orly[/B]
• Daveysgingerlovechild
• Woolverhampton_Blue
• Clemenza
• Zezti
• Bwana
• The Blue Watch
• PhilRegan
• Vhaldemar

Southampton at home - MotM voting...

Votes: 20.6%

• [B]orly[/B]
• Douglas Maclure

I am a deeply ironical voter Andy. I don't think anyone could really have voted for Tom Davies in either of those games.

Can I be honest with you? It was my dream that Tom Davies would win GOT player of the year, his award photo with you would go up on the site, and mayhem would ensue.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We tend to have far too extreme opinions of young players. They are either the best player we've ever produced or not good enough for the conference north. I'm guilty of it at times too.

We need to stop overrating average young players and stop over exaggerating how bad others are.

 

[orly]

We tend to have far too extreme opinions of young players. They are either the best player we've ever produced or not good enough for the conference north. I'm guilty of it at times too.

We need to stop overrating average young players and stop over exaggerating how bad others are.

I agree. Helpfully 95% of opinions on Tom Davies (he is utterly terrible) are well-grounded.

 

[ParisToffee]

Unfortunately we are a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde right through the club with our academy lads ;-( Potential lads are picked out that are going to be the next best thing and deemed as can do no wrong by a percentage of the fanbase while another can be decided as useless despite never playing 1 minute of 1st team football ;-( Throughout the league now, there are lads who played at our academy and left but at Chelsea,Spurs, Arsenal, Brighton, Sheffield united etc so as a club we have a great reputationof being a stepping block into regular 1st team football ;-)

Before we maybe stupidly been too loyal to players and kept them in our under age teams without sending them out into real world of football and slowing down their development but that has changed under Brands, especially sending players like Gibson, Holtby, Kenny, Markelo now etc to other leagues for playing time and there seems to be a more serious professional culling of them if Tait/Unsworth/Brands does'nt see they will make it here ;-) eg Holtby who we actually sold for cash ;-) Contracts seem more logical too unlike Garbutt etc

Players like Gordan has praised Tait and Brands a lot more than Unsworth and said it was reason he signed up last year again and with the new Youth guy we've brought in from Derby and linking up with the American/Australian clubs announced last month, the club is putting the effort into the football side of it more now which is great stuff ;-)

As fans we are horrible though to the kids who get chances as Barkley could do no wrong but Davis is crap and DCL could'nt score in brothel he was so bad but all young players need encouragement to express themselves and as long as they make the effort we support them 100%

They are not all going to be Rooney but lads like Ledson etc were going to be the next messiah like Dowell but have'nt really done anything and are supported but Tyias Browning was crap but the lads in China and got us 4 million so its 50/50 for all the lads who go through the academy and hopefully we re not as bad as we seem sometimes on here when we destroy a young lad ,who s living the dream playing for us, that we can only dream about, for not being Maradona or Lothar Matthaus ;-)

 

[TheBigIguana]

If you aren't critical of young players you end up with Tom Davies playing 100 times for us.

That's not really logical though is it? Because we are amazingly hard on Davies and he has played 100 times. So surely if being critical prevented that, Davies would have been gone long ago right?

 

[Tipp blue]

What about those who vote for him ?????

Wolves away - MotM voting...

Votes: 135.4%

• lungo
• mightymoyes
• irishtony1878
• corben
• [B]orly[/B]
• Daveysgingerlovechild
• Woolverhampton_Blue
• Clemenza
• Zezti
• Bwana
• The Blue Watch
• PhilRegan
• Vhaldemar

Southampton at home - MotM voting...

Votes: 20.6%

• [B]orly[/B]
• Douglas Maclure

If he plays well and is the best player then he deserves MOTM and praise.. but the question is why does he not maintain a decent level of contribution to the team? Most of the time he's not interested.

 

[orly]

If he plays well and is the best player then he deserves MOTM and praise.. but the question is why does he not maintain a decent level of contribution to the team? Most of the time he's not interested.

I agree with you there mate, I think it is a very churlish point Andy is making there. And I am DEEPLY SUSPICIOUS that Davies made up 135.4% of the Wolves MoM voting. I suspect POSTAL FRAUD.

 

[jaycee]

I like Tom,mainly for the fact that him strolling round dressed as a young Sherlock Holmes brings out absolute nutters

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

If he plays well and is the best player then he deserves MOTM and praise.. but the question is why does he not maintain a decent level of contribution to the team? Most of the time he's not interested.

You could level that criticism at every player at the club for the past few seasons at least.

 

[AndyC]

I agree with you there mate, I think it is a very churlish point Andy is making there. And I am DEEPLY SUSPICIOUS that Davies made up 135.4% of the Wolves MoM voting. I suspect POSTAL FRAUD.

The churlish point - if indeed that is what it is/was - is that you have slagged him off endlessly and yet voted twice recently for him as MotM.