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To be honest Keith, i think your views are warped not radical just warped and im talking about the football issues, to be honest i dont really have a problem with that ill choose either to disagree or ignore. So for me i have no problem with you sticking around.

Personaly again i beleive a lot of your views are driven by a need to be controversial or provoke a negative reaction or debate, but illl let you read Freud and allow you that self discovery for yourself. Again i dont have a prob with this as every man has the right to act like a knob if thats his choosing.

Where i do draw the line Keith is that your Narcisstic tendincies had to be satisfied to the extent that you denied many people both here and on toffee web the enjoyment of partaking in a forum that a lot of people invested heavily in both in time, humour, effort and dedication, and no getting away from the fact that that fundemenatly is wrong.

Think Keith of the collective and the many people you denied/offended/enraged and forced them either directly or indirectly to walk away from something they really enjoyed and for many loved. That my friend will not happen here. Most of the reaction you got was from true blue kids who were naieve enough not to see through you, that in its self is wrong too and in an indirect way a form of subtle bullying. Have a long think mate, because id like to see the nice guy you descirbe yourself as being.

I vote stay because i can deal with you on a personal level! But i will tow the party line on a collective vote. But if you cause an iota of the trouble or upset like you did on T.W. I'll be strongley adovating for you to be given the push.

Apart from that enjoy my firend.

Or

Good night Monty!
 
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personally, I don't have a major problem (well, I do have major problems, but not with Keith posting here), I'm not changing my sig thoughb)


p.s. can anyone else spot the irony?:D
 
I also have no problem with you being here, I'm not a mod or admin anymore just so you know.

However, if you start coming out with that pro-red [Poor language removed] bullshit again, well then just don't expect a long stay.

This is an Everton forum for Everton fans, we are here to be biased... if you want honest talk about comparing certain players on an even scale you ain't gonna get it here.

ALL of our players are better than ALL of Liverpools players, thats the way it is on here and the way it will always be.

:)
 
Shabs, if it really is you, what I found offensive about your posts on TW (and since noticed the same elsewhere) was not the pro-RS sentiments but the trolling.

I spend most of my life working around various aspects of the internet and trolls are an unfortunate feature of many community-based sites, especially on sports sites. Trolls take great pleasure in winding-up members of a community and then crying "what did I do"? Precisely as you are doing here.

I never felt that you believed any argument that you were putting forward, more that you were deliberately trying to be controversial, niggly and antagonistic to provoke a reaction. Trolls are destructive to the spirit of a community and as such are often (rightly, imo) banned for their attention-seeking antics.

If the admins and mods here decide to let you post, I would probably be less likely to participate than more likely. And I would request that an "Ignore" feature is implemented on the forum (as it is on many sports forums) so that people who don't wish to read your posts don't have to.

You asked for feedback and that is my honest opinion. And now I'll shut up to avoid giving you more of the oxygen of response that you crave.
 
Dear GrandOldTeam members

Think about it, if i really was a red i must be some sad f****r to go to this length to get a laugh out of it.

Bit of feedback would be nice even if its just to say "sorry but sayonara".

Sincerely
Keith

Yep, enough feedback for you ?
 

I also have no problem with you being here, I'm not a mod or admin anymore just so you know.

However, if you start coming out with that pro-red [Poor language removed] bullshit again, well then just don't expect a long stay.

This is an Everton forum for Everton fans, we are here to be biased... if you want honest talk about comparing certain players on an even scale you ain't gonna get it here.

ALL of our players are better than ALL of Liverpools players, thats the way it is on here and the way it will always be.


:)

Rob, the two sentences highlighted above contradict each other - yes? ;)
 
Danny - fully understood, and thanks for clearing up the I.P issue.

I.P IS THE SAME AS THE ONE I USED ON TW. ITS THE SAME "KEITH_SHABS". OFFICIAL

Neiler - I accept part of the blame for what happened on Toffeeweb. But it certainly wasn't intended and if people had a problem with me then complaining to Garry (who really had no right to ban me at that stage as i had done nothing wrong but express my opinion) was the wrong thing to do. They should have simply ignored me, theres nowhere on the site saying you have to read everyones posts, and you all reserve the right to ignore my posts which is fine.

I just think it was a little petulant for some people to run to the boss over an opinion, i argued my case, and some people either resorted to childish verbal insults or ignored me. And the ignoring was the best thing to do for those people who could not keep their personal insults in check. People who responded to my posts with well thought out arguments were in the minority. It was bound to cause division. However here, I'll learn to keep my *ahem* " Pro RS rhetoric " to a minimum to avoid any petty arguments arising.

Let me emphasise once more than i was never "driven by a need to be controversial" or placed "hooks" into my post. That theory is simply ridiculous. Whatever i said, i said it because i truly believe it, if it caused a mini uproar then that was a bonus, im of the thinking that a forum were everyone gets on and has the same opinions is a pretty dull forum. Its nice that people have friends on here but we are here primarily to discuss Everton yes ?.

I must reiterate that i forced nobody to walk away from TW, they did that of their own accord. My arrival may have sparked a division, but what went on from there on in, i played no part in.

Gordonjblair - Keep the sig mate, its funny.

Rob_Japan - Ahh thats not true, i've already talked with a few of the lads on here about certain players and comparisons etc. Although I have no problem with tweaking my views to allign with that concept pal (y)

Atrottel - Ok Atrottel, fair response.

Firstly, lets get this underlined once and for all, i have been on TW and here and thats it, i have never been on forum evolution, the person who impersonated me on there was Montyblue, or that is who i am led to believe it is. Im unfamiliar with the term trolling or "troll" in the context your using, but i get the gist of what your trying to say.

I still believe to this day that all i did on TW was voice an opinion, i apologise for the way it was received and what followed a few months after i arrived, but im not sorry for voicing it. At the end of the day if certain people cannot deal with hearing someones opinion then thats a pretty sad way to think. You don't have to agree with someone, you just have to respect their right to having that opinion, which is what i didnt get on TW. You can even argue against that opinion if you so wish, which is also what happened on TW and i was more than happy to oblige with my reasoning for having such an opinion.

As ive already said to Neiler, there is no way i have ever deliberately expressed an opinion with the intention of creating controversy, despite what you may think, anything ive said is because i actually believe it. And as i keep saying, if i am indeed "a troll" then i must be some very sad, persistant little blighter because i keep coming back.

I would also like an ignore feature implemented, because as i said, i don't want to be stepping on any toes here. Anyone who doesnt want to read my posts, doesn't have to, but i think thats a little sad that people have to rely on a computer to ignore someones posts.

Evlatchford - Speaks volumes

Chico - For the last time, its not Monty !! :dodgy: :D
 
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It's not Monty.

And Keith I have no problem with you posting here. So long as you stick by the rules and don't wind people up there is not an issue. :)
 

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