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Times article, Burnley/Leeds threaten to sue Everton

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Spadge Vernacular said:
I have just had a tree surgeon around to give me a price and whilst speaking FFP came up. He is clearly an expert at what he does and say that the actions taken against teams who have broken FFP to date are as below - and I trust him because he knows how to properly crop a tree.
  • Vojvodina – fined €10,000 (December 21, 2012)
  • Arsenal Kyiv – fined €45,000 (December 21, 2012)
  • Osijek – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012)
  • Dinamo București – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012)
  • Rapid București – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012). Missed deadline to pay outstanding payments and was handed a one-season ban from European competition (March 31, 2013).
  • Hajduk Split – fined €40,000 (December 21, 2012). Withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
  • Malaga – fined €300,000 and handed a one-season ban from European competition (March 31, 2013)
  • Astra Ploiești – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
  • Metalurh Donetsk – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013). Handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €80,000 (December 20, 2013).
  • Skonto – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013). Handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €40,000 (December 20, 2013).
  • Trabzonspor – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
  • Zrinjski Mostar – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
  • Petrolul Ploiești – handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €50,000 (December 20, 2013).
  • Pandurii Târgu Jiu – fined €40,000 (December 20, 2013)
  • Śląsk Wrocław – fined €20,000 (December 20, 2013)
  • Anzhi Makhachkala – fined €2 million, of which €1 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Bursaspor – fined €200,000 fine, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Galatasaray – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Levski Sofia – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Rubin Kazan – fined €6 million, of which €3 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Trabzonspor – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Zenit Saint Petersburg – fined €12 million fine, of which €6 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions were imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Paris Saint-Germain – find €60 million, of which €40 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Manchester City – fined €60 million, of which €40 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
  • Astana – fined €2 million, of which €1.5 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players, and transfer spending restrictions imposed. Required to break even by 2018 (May 20, 2016)
  • Dinamo Zagreb – fined €200,000. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 23 players, and required to break even by 2016 (May 20, 2016)
  • Fenerbahçe – fined €7.5 million, of which €5.5 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players. Transfer spending restrictions imposed, required to reach a defined employee benefit expenses to revenue ratio, and required to break even by 2019 (May 20, 2016)
  • Trabzonspor – fined €2 million, of which €1 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players. Transfer spending restrictions imposed, required to reach a defined employee benefit expenses to revenue ratio, and required to break even by 2018 (May 20, 2016)
  • AC Milan – banned from European competitions for a year (June 28, 2019)
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I reckon we're not going to be playing in European competitions next season.

Better not ask for any independent commission of the top 15 teams then.
 
Spadge Vernacular said:
Losses of the magnitude that appear to breach FFP don't automatically mean a club is in breach, because UEFA's FFP parameters don't consider certain types of "virtuous" spending -- like investment in youth or infrastructure -- as losses. And, when arguing their case, clubs can also include future revenue projections to show they are trending in the right direction. At least this is what Liverpool and Man City have relied upon previously and lets be honest, they won't want their cash cows dragged back into a threatening situation as I am sure there'd be an all out war.
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It's not FFP we have apparently broken. It's the Premier League profit and sustainability. So Uefa stuff doesn't matter in this regard.

But the media/posters just say FFP as it's easier to write.
 
Toffeelover said:
Look all I am not saying he or it is right just passing on his views. Which from the facts we know could be troublesome.

He was of the opinion that some how Everton will not be found guilty that bodies would rather save our club than Buernly, we mean more to the PL.
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I'm not sure Burnley are really in a position to talk about finances

www.dailymail.co.uk

Burnley's Premier League hangover could last for years

The east Lancashire club was relegated on Sunday after losing 2-1 to Newcastle United at Turf Moor, while rivals Leeds United won 2-1 away at Brentford and survived in the top flight.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 

Toffeelover said:
Look all I am not saying he or it is right just passing on his views. Which from the facts we know could be troublesome.

He was of the opinion that some how Everton will not be found guilty that bodies would rather save our club than Buernly, we mean more to the PL.
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Toffeelover said:
Speaking to my Son in Law, he maintains that the case will go to the FA court before next season fixtures sorted. He was also quite firm if Everton lose the FA will change the league standings and Everton will go down due to a 6 point deduction.
Also claims that the financial loss over the 3 years was 600 million so deffo FFP broken and as such Everton have cheated thus rules broken. If Everton win there will be no change. So really it is all about how the expenses what ever the amount were calculated..

Does anyone have any late news on what is happening.

BTW the other club according to him who are joining in is Newcastle.
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In this post you say we are gonna get a 6 points reduction and get relegated, my chum?
 
Toffeelover said:
Look all I am not saying he or it is right just passing on his views. Which from the facts we know could be troublesome.

He was of the opinion that some how Everton will not be found guilty that bodies would rather save our club than Buernly, we mean more to the PL.
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Just as a query, where has he got that information from?
 

Toffeelover said:
Speaking to my Son in Law, he maintains that the case will go to the FA court before next season fixtures sorted. He was also quite firm if Everton lose the FA will change the league standings and Everton will go down due to a 6 point deduction.
Also claims that the financial loss over the 3 years was 600 million so deffo FFP broken and as such Everton have cheated thus rules broken. If Everton win there will be no change. So really it is all about how the expenses what ever the amount were calculated..

Does anyone have any late news on what is happening.

BTW the other club according to him who are joining in is Newcastle.
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I think you should probably be given a short ban for this ridiculous post.
 

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