Today’s Football - 2024/25 Season

[Alan Whittle]

Then they can complain about that, but not about the fact that it was a yellow card type challenge.

It is a fact that the referee eventually gave a foul and a yellow card. Whether the tackle was a foul is opinion.That is why they have referees; to interpret the laws of the game during the game and act according to their opinion.

 

[ToffeeScot]

It is a fact that the referee eventually gave a foul and a yellow card. Whether the tackle was a foul is opinion.That is why they have referees; to interpret the laws of the game during the game and act according to their opinion.

Majority of people would consider that a foul and a yellow card.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Majority of people would consider that a foul and a yellow card.

That is possible but it is not a vote or a popularity contest. It is the referees call. He made the call and was persuaded to change it, possibly by the Fourth Official who would have exceeded his brief in doing so.

 

[kenada_blue]

It is a fact that the referee eventually gave a foul and a yellow card. Whether the tackle was a foul is opinion.That is why they have referees; to interpret the laws of the game during the game and act according to their opinion.

Was in agreement with his initial reaction. But anything slightly aggressive gets eyes on it instantly.

But to go from "got the ball" to foul and changing the game by sending a player off then makes you question the standard of the referee IMO.

 

[ToffeeScot]

That is possible but it is not a vote or a popularity contest. It is the referees call. He made the call and was persuaded to change it, possibly by the Fourth Official who would have exceeded his brief in doing so.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/global/files/referees/fourth-official-guidance.ashx%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Fourth%2520Official%2520assists%2520the,officials%252C%2520especially%2520during%2520the%2520match.&ved=2ahUKEwiqzdyN7taIAxVkBNsEHauuHXAQFnoECBgQBg&usg=AOvVaw1p8XMR6zmULQIy7Q5VuiIQ

From reading this guidance I don't see why the fourth official can't assist the referee in the deicison.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Was in agreement with his initial reaction. But anything slightly aggressive gets eyes on it instantly.

But to go from "got the ball" to foul and changing the game by sending a player off then makes you question the standard of the referee IMO.

It was definitely an old school tackle but he went for the ball and got it. His impetus and forward motion meant he collided with the man. It’s a contact sport ffs.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Why’s he still lying down

 

[Alan Whittle]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/global/files/referees/fourth-official-guidance.ashx%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Fourth%2520Official%2520assists%2520the,officials%252C%2520especially%2520during%2520the%2520match.&ved=2ahUKEwiqzdyN7taIAxVkBNsEHauuHXAQFnoECBgQBg&usg=AOvVaw1p8XMR6zmULQIy7Q5VuiIQ

From reading this guidance I don't see why the fourth official can't assist the referee in the deicison.

It lists plenty of specific duties and contains the nebulous “assists the referee at all times”. If that were practicable the fourth official would be regularly intervening in the referee’s decisions. The fact that he does not shows that it is not the FA’s intent for that to happen.
I appreciate your point, it doesn’t say he can’t but it also doesn’t say that he should.

 

[Lapeno77]

wTF

 

[Alan Whittle]

The Brighton ref would have sent Havertz off there.

 

[Tommy Chong]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/global/files/referees/fourth-official-guidance.ashx%23:~:text%3DThe%2520Fourth%2520Official%2520assists%2520the,officials%252C%2520especially%2520during%2520the%2520match.&ved=2ahUKEwiqzdyN7taIAxVkBNsEHauuHXAQFnoECBgQBg&usg=AOvVaw1p8XMR6zmULQIy7Q5VuiIQ

From reading this guidance I don't see why the fourth official can't assist the referee in the deicison.

Sounds like if the ref asks him for his opinion if he's unsure, but otherwise the fourth official must shut it.

If he thinks he saw something and intervenes without the ref asking, I think the ref will tell him to go do one.

 

[heatmeiser]

That would have been the greatest red card I've seen

 

[gonetomorrow]

Rodri is a cheater.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Cmon arsenal, Into these cheating scum