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Today’s Football - 2024/25 Season

ToffeeTim said:
The Arsenal one yesterday just clearly isn't a red card under current rules or current interpretations.

I don't have an issue that people think it should be red and understand the argument. But then we need to change the rules first, because those are never given as straight red cards.
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How far off the ball do you need it to be for it to be a red? Most of the time the player can plausibly say he was making some attempt to win the ball but yesterday's was just too obvious for the ref to let slide.
 

Kevsleftpeg said:
How far off the ball do you need it to be for it to be a red? Most of the time the player can plausibly say he was making some attempt to win the ball but yesterday's was just too obvious for the ref to let slide.
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The rules talk about force and endangering an opponent. Not how close you are to the ball. Every shirt pull you see has no possibility of winning the ball either but it's not a red card offence.
 
daza_1973 said:
Scab six team different media agenda. Pundits are an embarrassment on MOTD.
Shearer in particular- there seems to be a clause that they have to show a graphic that he is Newcastle's / the prems all time top scorer every time he's on it.
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It would be great if they brought in some different pundits once Lineker leaves - or no pundits at all. Shearer has nothing left to give and Murphy is unspeakable for obvious reasons.
How do these people get these jobs? We never learn anything from them. They'd be better just showing the highlights of each match and leaving it at that. Fat chance I suppose.
 
Kevsleftpeg said:
Fine. Let's just treat it as striking an opponent then which is a red card (since it clearly wasn't an attempt at a tackle). If someone did that to someone off the ball who was chasing back or running forward they would be red carded. This is no different.
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Striking an opponent? Bloody Hell do you work for VAR by any chance.
 
Kevsleftpeg said:
Fine, you're entitled to your view. I just don't see how the punishment for a genuine but mistimed attempt for the ball is treated the same as a deliberate cynical foul. In a legal context mens rea is a deciding factor when determining guilt. A court obviously treats someone who deliberately runs over and injures another person far more harshly than someone who accidentally causes an accident. This should be no different. I hate these cynical fouls. The big teams do them respectively and it's a specific tactic they employ. It's cheating and the authorities should punish it severely.
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We aren't in court mate, it's a footy field. And in the current rules doing something like that isn't worthy of a red card. Every team does it. We do it all the time.
 



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