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Today's Football 2017-18 Season

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England are sooooo painful to watch.

They have no identity whatsoever.

Turbo crap.

It's almost as bad as watching Everton atm.
 

So as it stands:


Points Goal difference
Portugal 18 18
Denmark 14 7 (1 extra match)
Italy 14 3
Sweden 13 10
NI 13 5 (10 goals scored)
Greece 13 4 (9 goals scored) (played an extra match!!!)
Slovakia 12 3 (10 goals scored) (1 extra match)
Wales 11 2 (7 goals scored)
Croatia 11 2 (6 goals scored)
 
Wales look like they have to win.. not enough points in the runners-up table. RoI obviously have to win anyway.. so draw is no use to either.
 
England really are poor, and to be honest I don't really think it was a penalty. Both players went in high for the same ball and kicked each other's foot. It was just that Alli's dive was the more convincing, horrible man :whip:
 
A Sweden or France
Sweden 7-13 and possible points to add in last game
France 7-16 Now or 8-19 if they finish 2nd with Belarus last

B Swiss or Portugal
Swiss 21 pts (losing to Portugal) or Portugal 18 or 19

C NI 7-13 +5 Match in play

D Wales 7-11 GD +2 add 1 or 3 points for not losing to RoI or Serbia 7-12 or 13 if they fall to 2nd place.
RoI need to win for 2nd so 8-13 Final

E Denmark 8-14 complete

F Slovakia 8-12 +5 GD complete

G Italy 7-14 to play Albania

H Greece 8–13 with Gibraltar to play
or Bosnia 7-8 need to win and Greece fail (unlikely)

I Croatia 7-11 so 8-12 or 14 with no loss to Ukraine
Ukraine 8-14 as must win
Iceland 8-16 if they fall to 2nd

So bottom line is Wales must win unless Greece fail against Gibraltar. This was pretty much why Bosnia’s loss to Belgium was a big loss to Wales.
 

Range - sure of play-off place at least

B Portugal or Switzerland 18-21
G Italy 14-17
E Denmark 14
A Sweden/France 13+ to 19
C Northern Ireland 13-16
H Greece 13 - barring a failure to beat Gibraltar (Bosnia unlikely to pass but would be eliminated) - If that happens and B&H win their last game all the rest is unimportant..They will finish last on 11 pts.


I Croatia/Ukraine/Iceland 12-16
D Wales/RoI/Serbia 12-14
F Slovenia 12 (+5)

This means that Portugal, Switzerland, Italy, Denmark, Sweden (barring a 7 goal drubbing), France, Northern Ireland, Greece (barring a disaster), Iceland and either Croatia or Ukraine and Serbia are definitely in the finals or the play offs..

The final play off decision (whether they qualify for that) is between Wales (needing to win) or RoI (must win). Croatia would fail with a draw if Wales win as they then fall below Slovenia. So a Wales-RoI draw gets Slovenia into the play offs as would a Croatia/Ukraine draw. Slovenia fall to the bottom of the pile if Croatia/Ukraine finish 2nd and that game ends with Ukraine or Croatia winning (whatever happens in the Iceland game) and also Wales/RoI ends in a win. The only way they sneak in is if either of Ukraine/Croatia or Wales/RoI ends in a draw.
 
Feels harsh on Scotland but England qualified from that group unbeaten playing like a bunch of spazfaces.

Surely if Scotland ever had a chance this was it

Yep poor Scotland are bottlers supreme.They bottled it in the Euro 2016 qualifying campaign as well.Those scots would fit in well working at the Coca Cola factory.
 

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