right what your saying monty, but i do like it when people are willing to get arrested to get their point across, to me we don't have enough people who are willing to stand up for their beliefs. when i was in n.z. there was an america/china summit in christchurch the 1st for over 30 years, the place was overrun for about a month before with cia and chinese security, bans on parking on the street etc were enforced and basically it didn't matter how inconvenienced you were by it all, i stopped to get a paper (about 2 weeks before clinton was due to arrive) and an american voice told me to remove my vehicle from the sidewalk,knowing that they had no legal powers in n.z. i instantly asked the guy if he had any rights to work/ powers of arrest in new zealand and when he blankly replied "what" i pointed out that it was called a pavement and he could go and shove his government issue shades up his farter, he wasn't very happy but tough shoit, it was monday morning and i was getting my british soccer weekly. ironically the patrons of democracy were the ones pulling the strings and keeping the free tibet crowds away from the hotel where the chinese were staying.