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Toxic rival fans

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Togger Blue said:
Nothing to get paranoid about. Across the country there will be a large contingent of football followers who have the greatest respect for EFC and what is stands for.
I suggest that far more people would absolutely 'Love it!' if one of the alleged 'Big 6' had a dodgy season and ended up getting binned - especially the rs.

Anyway, we live to fight on in the top Division again, so the divvies can all 'do one'.
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They wouldn’t go down the RS media would say “it’s unfair on the fans”
 
Aside from across Stanley Park I think it's more curiosity as to what would happen with Everton in the championship.

I started following football in the mid 90s and in that period Villa, Man. City, Leeds, Newcastle, West Ham, Sheff Weds, Sunderland, Forest, Blackburn (4 years after winning the premier league) have all had prolonged spells in championship or lower. Then you have more medium size clubs like Southampton, Portsmouth and Leicester going down again although ironically to a Gen Z Leicester would be seen as a pretty big club nowadays based on what they've won and generally achieved in last decade.

To a neutral Everton in premier league is pretty boring really. Not threatening for europe, playing uninteresting football (compared to say Brighton) with few marketable players which the social media world wants and so perception is just tired club circling the drain which was what Villa, Sunderland and Newcastle were all doing in 2013. All three went down and two have already come back and now playing in europe.

Sunderland imploded but they too are in decent shape now with a very young side in championship.

"Big" clubs getting relegated is also amusing of course. I think if Spurs botch the next few managers and Kane leaving it's not impossible they could get dragged into relegation battles in future seasons. They weren't far going down in 97/98 themselves (Christian Gross) and had some poor seasons in the early 2000s.
 

It's because of the FFP. It's painted that we 'cheated' by spending so much. But whole truth is, we never gained any advantage. I reckon this administration could spend the same again and we wouldn't be any better.
Then there's an element of jealousy. No journalist was arsed about Leicester or Leeds, so they were a non story in comparison to our levels of doom. That must have hurt their feelings, poor pets.
 
jonnyboy316 said:
I have found the reaction from the supporters of other English based football clubs of our survival very interesting.

It is not just the RS it seems to be right across the board a real disappointment that we have survived.

It is strange on one hand as we are a poorly run club who have not won a trophy for nearly 30 years and are unlikely to offer up any threat to the sharp end of the table for the foreseeable future.

I do start to wonder if on some level there is a bit of jealousy towards the club and its position as the old lady of English football. One of the founder league members. A club that is still integral to its local community with a highly concentrated local support base

For the Sky 6 success has come at a price. Prawn sandwiches, cheese rooms, half and half scarfs. It is a diluted experience. Look at the RS when they experienced a little adversity under Hodgson their attendances started to drop as people from Denmark no longer wanted to make the journey. Same thing happened to Arsenal a couple of years back when they were struggling. They still reported sell outs but some season ticket holders stopped turning up. We have been served up poo on a stick for large parts of the last 30 years. The last two seasons back to back relegation battles yet we have still been filling a stadium that has thousands of restricted view seats. The support should be proud. It also highlights how important it is that the transition to the new stadium is done properly to ensure we don’t lose our soul
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Most of it is good old anti-scouserism
 
ToffeeScot said:
In the age of social media, short memories are quite apparent as I've read multiple times and heard multiple times from journalists, oppositions fans etc. that we are always narrowly escaping relegation. Due to that short term memory, the atrocious football we have played in that short space of time, the managerial changes from Ancelotti > Benitez > Lampard > Dyche, the opposition to the board etc. we have become a club that neutrals love to hate. Social media doesn't care about getting to the centre or truth of a story, it cares about what gets clicks and instant buzz. It's easy to hate on us and we need to change that culture.
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Christ.. that's a depressing fall when you say it out loud!!
 

Socistep2 said:
I live in Leeds, a Leeds fan at work told me last week that our result against Brighton was dodgy and needs investigating, as does the late equiliser versus wolves ..he then said he'd been emailing the FA/premier league regularly about our FFP investigation, made me laugh at the time
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I'm in Leeds too mate and have heard all the above shouts, they genuinely think it was a conspiracy to relegate them because the other teams around were more scared of them staying up than us haha.
 

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