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If that table doesn't prove once and for all that net spend is NOT the sole key to success, nothing will.

What on earth? I realize you want it to not be true but FFS you can't take the spend from an incomplete window and use it as evidence.

The last decade says hello ...

Nett Spend 03/04 - 13/14 Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £860,920,000 £269,950,000 £590,970,000 £45,459,231
2 Chelsea £936,509,000 £384,850,000 £551,659,000 £42,435,308
3 Manchester United £669,550,000 £284,150,000 £385,400,000 £29,646,154

Also nobody considers it the sole key to success. City didn't win everything by virtue of being number one. But if you take the top three that's a fairly high percentage of the trophies won over the last decade.

There are outliers -- us ... Spurs because of big sales etc -- depending on your definition of "success." But there is a very strong correlation. It's one of the strongest correlations that exists in sports for predicting future performance.

It's funny how people who don't understand statistics seem to think nobody has ever thought of causation before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

We know. It doesn't change the fact that biggest net spend = trophies most (not literally all ... but most) of the time.
 
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Napoli‘s Kalidou Koulibaly could be on the move to England with Everton and Southampton both interested in the defender.

Koulibaly only moved to the Partenopei last summer from Belgian side Genk but has been the subject of much interest from clubs abroad this summer.

According to a report in English newspaper the Daily Star, the Toffees are preparing a €10 million bid for the Frenchman but are also considering a move for River Plate defender Ramiro Funes Mori or Ashley Williams of Swansea.

The Saints also remain interested in Koulibaly despite having a reported €12 million bid turned down.

The 24 year-old was a regular for Napoli last season making 27 starts at the heart of the Neapolitans defence and also managed to score one goal.
 
Napoli‘s Kalidou Koulibaly could be on the move to England with Everton and Southampton both interested in the defender.

Koulibaly only moved to the Partenopei last summer from Belgian side Genk but has been the subject of much interest from clubs abroad this summer.

According to a report in English newspaper the Daily Star, the Toffees are preparing a €10 million bid for the Frenchman but are also considering a move for River Plate defender Ramiro Funes Mori or Ashley Williams of Swansea.

The Saints also remain interested in Koulibaly despite having a reported €12 million bid turned down.

The 24 year-old was a regular for Napoli last season making 27 starts at the heart of the Neapolitans defence and also managed to score one goal.
think that ships sailed now tbh mate
 

Napoli‘s Kalidou Koulibaly could be on the move to England with Everton and Southampton both interested in the defender.

Koulibaly only moved to the Partenopei last summer from Belgian side Genk but has been the subject of much interest from clubs abroad this summer.

According to a report in English newspaper the Daily Star, the Toffees are preparing a €10 million bid for the Frenchman but are also considering a move for River Plate defender Ramiro Funes Mori or Ashley Williams of Swansea.

The Saints also remain interested in Koulibaly despite having a reported €12 million bid turned down.

The 24 year-old was a regular for Napoli last season making 27 starts at the heart of the Neapolitans defence and also managed to score one goal.

Southampton have had a €12 million bid turned down so Everton prepare a bid of €10 million.

So typical Everton
 

What on earth? I realize you want it to not be true but FFS you can't take the spend from an incomplete window and use it as evidence.

The last decade says hello ...

Nett Spend 03/04 - 13/14 Purchased Gross Sold Nett Per Season

1 Manchester City £860,920,000 £269,950,000 £590,970,000 £45,459,231
2 Chelsea £936,509,000 £384,850,000 £551,659,000 £42,435,308
3 Manchester United £669,550,000 £284,150,000 £385,400,000 £29,646,154

Also nobody considers it the sole key to success. City didn't win everything by virtue of being number one. But if you take the top three that's a fairly high percentage of the trophies won over the last decade.

There are outliers -- us ... Spurs because of big sales etc -- depending on your definition of "success." But there is a very strong correlation. It's one of the strongest correlations that exists in sports for predicting future performance.

It's funny how people who don't understand statistics seem to think nobody has ever thought of causation before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

We know. It doesn't change the fact that biggest net spend = trophies most (not literally all ... but most) of the time.
Thanks for the lecture on things I am already perfectly aware of mate ;)

I think you have misunderstood the point I was trying to make. My point was that there are STILL people banging on in this very thread about our net spend IN THIS WINDOW ALONE being "inferior" to that of Stoke, Newcastle Watford etc etc, as if the total sum spent automatically denotes qualitative improvement provided the sum is large enough.

The fact remains that the quality you bring in matters more than the price tag attached to it. That does not conflict with your very accurate point that the teams that have spent the most over the last ten years have, by and large, won the most trophies, but their spending total does not by itself tell the whole story: those huge sums have, for the most part, been spent on top quality players.

The fact that we have coonsistently performed better than some other teams in the prem who have spent mor ethan us (either gross or net) over the last ten years is because we have brought in better value players in terms of their quality / price ratio, if you catch my drift.
 

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