Ultimate Moyes poll.

[Mr Happy]

Christ

 

[judge]

I thought it would sensible to post a poll that would allow the good members of GoT to once and for all, settle the Moyes debate.
The perennial get ‘Moyes in’ discourse is reaching fever pitch, fortunately this poll is designed to prevent these most serious discussions further degenerating into excessive middle fingering and outright hostilities amongst the best and most level headed fans in the world.
There’s seems to be fundamentally 3 camps, Moyes cultists, middle grounders who want the best for Everton and the throw your Moyes out the pram brigade, with some nuanced overlap between these 3 profiles.
I propose the results of this poll settle this debate once and for all and be an eternal point of reference for the next ground hog day of Moyes debate.

In that case it should only have two options, 'yes' and 'no'

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

It's undeniable he, Martinez and Big Joe have presided over our happiest periods over the last 30yrs. Would be remiss to say it was all sunshine and light under Moyes, mind. Plenty of grim anti-football periods and bad afternoons.

But should we go back? Inclined to say no. Would rather find the right manager for the current era.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

I long for winning one nil against crap teams at Goodison. I think he did a very good job for us.

I don’t think he is the answer now though

 

[helpimonfire]

I am going to Stockholm next month. Where do I buy this syndrome thingy?

 

[Bedfordblue]

In that case it should only have two options, 'yes' and 'no'

‘By public vote, David Moyes shall forever more be considered on of the following, so say we all’

• Yes
• No

Not entirely sure that works, but thanks for the contribution.
Probably needs a maybe option too imho.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Losing 2nil to Arsenal:
Saha off
Distin on

I'll never forget that.

 

[welshtoffee]

I am going to Stockholm next month. Where do I buy this syndrome thingy?

Any gift shop, usually next to the fridge magnets.

 

[Blue peter]

….think there’s as much luck as judgement in appointing a new manager, much depends on our league position and whether we’re after somebody to put a fire out.

I have no idea.

I personally suspect that not as much scrutiny goes into recruiting managers as players. I’d have a number of criteria to check off elf. Style of play, results, etc and one of those criteria would certainly involve tactics and in game management (not sure clubs or certainly Everton conducts that level of diligence) and whilst you are right that you need an element of luck e.g. right person, right place, right time, that diligence would remove the degree of luck needed

 

[Gerard_Francis]

I long for winning one nil against crap teams at Goodison. I think he did a very good job for us.

I don’t think he is the answer now though

Indeed, it was great to qualify for the Champions League albeit with a -7 goal average and out of Europe before the season had hardly started

 

[Eggs]

I personally suspect that not as much scrutiny goes into recruiting managers as players. I’d have a number of criteria to check off elf. Style of play, results, etc and one of those criteria would certainly involve tactics and in game management (not sure clubs or certainly Everton conducts that level of diligence) and whilst you are right that you need an element of luck e.g. right person, right place, right time, that diligence would remove the degree of luck needed

…I really like the idea of criteria.

I like managers who turn around the fortunes of a team, which includes bringing players in to improve performance. The scope of the job has changed since DOFs were introduced, though, so aptitude in the transfer market is probably not as significant as it once was. A good manager might be flattered by a good DOF and vice versa.

I dare say the recruiting agents DFG use employs competency criteria.

 

[helpimonfire]

Any gift shop, usually next to the fridge magnets.

Fab, I will get two.

 

[Lob]

Did ok for us under the circumstances but was definitely a massive bell the way he left us. Karma caught up with him though and i still remember the times under him quite fondly. Better than Dyche but still wouldn't want him back as a permanent manager.

 

[blaze]

Built a decent squad for us and at times we played some great football. Plenty of other times we also played some terrible football with some bad team choices throughout.

I think he's better than what we have now and reckon he'd be able to build a decent enough squad again so desperate times might make me think he's do a good job at stabilising us, but it'd still be a complete mixture of results and frustration at the lack of belief when playing certain teams (which many would obviously take compared to what we're seeing now). I don't think he's the answer though, it's going to take a long time to rebuild and I don't think going back to Moyes is the right way to do that.

 

[Joey66]

Built a decent squad for us and at times we played some great football. Plenty of other times we also played some terrible football with some bad team choices throughout.

I think he's better than what we have now and reckon he'd be able to build a decent enough squad again so desperate times might make me think he's do a good job at stabilising us, but it'd still be a complete mixture of results and frustration at the lack of belief when playing certain teams (which many would obviously take compared to what we're seeing now). I don't think he's the answer though, it's going to take a long time to rebuild and I don't think going back to Moyes is the right way to do that.

One season we came just above relegation - it was only when Alan Irvine as no 2 came we saw good football ....never go back, look at HK
2 & 3.....