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2021/22 Vitalii Mykolenko

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Feel sorry for him to be honest with you, and willing to give him time but you can now add him in to the long list of players who ‘surprise you when they pass the ball to one of their own teammates’. The drop off in quality from Digne to people like Coleman, Kenny and Mykolenko is startling.

Don’t want to dig at him either, but he looks absolutely shattered after about 30 mins when he plays, no surprise Lampard took him off.
 
Zatara said:
A bit of a rant of sorts:


1: Ancelotti was interested, Brands scouted him and Benitez signed him.

2: He's been the left back regular for both Ukraine and Kiev for the past 4 seasons.

3: He has 21 caps and played 32 games in Europe by the age of 22.

4: He was rated in the top layer of highest potential u21 players for 3 years between the ages of 18-21.

5: He's been in/out of the team since joining and played in an unsettled team devoid of confidence. So far he's had Gray/Gordon/Richarlison ahead of him and Godfrey, Keane/Holgate next to him.

6: He did not cost £20mil / £21mil or whatever other fictitious fee mentioned. The fee was 'undisclosed' and strongly rumoured to be £17mil or £18mil including clauses. In the same way Pattersons fee was £16mil including clauses with the initial fee at £11mil...we can guess the initial fee for Mykolenko would likely be between £12-14mil.

7: He hasnt been dreadful or anything as bad as hes being made out to be. He's been average, probably 5 or 6 out of 10 every match.

8: He was signed a month into his 2 month winter break, moved to a new country and league and then seen Benitez, Ferguson and Lampard as managers. Not to mention his illness and the war in Ukraine.


I think he's a good player and opinions will change on him next season.
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You're 100% correct in what you're saying however you're being suicidal as a football club when you sell your best player and replace him with a kid who needs time to settle and won't be ready to come straight in, in a position you're already down to barebones all while you're in a relegation fight. Whether he becomes good or not a few seasons from now could be irrelevent considering the lad mightn't fancy playing Championship football where we will be once he "comes good" if we don't drastically improve.

We can't afford a consistent 5/10 player in our back line at this stage no matter how could he *might* be in the future.
 
Lanolin said:
We both know that isn’t how rating systems actually work. Football works on a 5 point rating system dressed as a 10 point one, anything below a 5 means you’ve been unspeakably bad, 5 is bad, 6 is acceptable, 7 is average, 8 is good, 9 is very good and 10 is reserved for scoring a hat trick. Mykolenko has been a 5 or 6 for me in every game so far. It doesn’t mean he won’t ever be a good player but there’s no point pretending he looks anything other than poor at the moment, and some things (his body shape when a player runs at him for example) are worrying for the longer term.
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Baggzio said:
You're 100% correct in what you're saying however you're being suicidal as a football club when you sell your best player and replace him with a kid who needs time to settle and won't be ready to come straight in, in a position you're already down to barebones all while you're in a relegation fight. Whether he becomes good or not a few seasons from now could be irrelevent considering the lad mightn't fancy playing Championship football where we will be once he "comes good" if we don't drastically improve.

We can't afford a consistent 5/10 player in our back line at this stage no matter how could he *might* be in the future.
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If were going with the notion that 5/10 is bad and not average...and 6 is acceptable and 7 average then I'd have Mykolenko as a 6/10 so far.

He's not an issue for me in comparison to Kenny/Coleman who are 1/10 to 4/10 in most games.
 

With everything that's going on with the team, and then the awful situation with his homeland, I think he's done ok.

Needs games now, as does Patterson - can be no worse then the dross getting picked ahead of them.

Ypu can call me old fashioned but I like players being selected in their rightful positions, so he starts at lb/lwb when fit - sorry JJK.
 
Baggzio said:
You're 100% correct in what you're saying however you're being suicidal as a football club when you sell your best player and replace him with a kid who needs time to settle and won't be ready to come straight in, in a position you're already down to barebones all while you're in a relegation fight. Whether he becomes good or not a few seasons from now could be irrelevent considering the lad mightn't fancy playing Championship football where we will be once he "comes good" if we don't drastically improve.

We can't afford a consistent 5/10 player in our back line at this stage no matter how could he *might* be in the future.
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It was all part of Benitez' master plan to make things so bad that any improvement will be messianic by comparison. It worked at Newcastle for him.
It was a shocking decision at the time but Mykolenko is here now and though not too impressive, we can only assume some of it is down to the crisis back home.
Also the manner Digne was turfed out by 'The Ego' put extra pressure on the lad coming in.
If anyone deserves time it's this lad
 

Even if down the line he isn't good enough as a 1st choice LB in the Prem we have a 2nd choice LB finally same with Patterson at RB.

End of the day its a squad game and for years we've had to play players like Holgate at RB and Godfrey at LB because Brands could not build a balanced squad.
 
Feel for him, but he looks properly alehouse. Hopefully next season he will improve after settling down a bit more.
 

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