Vote to support vaping

[Ashtonian]

Mmmm, been pondering it myself, but have the Smok Alien kit lined up as my next buy. So many gizmos I want to try...!

Just Googled that. Looks decent.

Ffs there was me thinking I didn't need any more vaping stuff. I got though 8 months mate haha might get myself one

 

[Moomin]

@GrandOldTeam can you please lock this thread, it's encouraging members of GOT to take up a highly addictive danger to health.

Thank you.

 

[carlos21]

Just Googled that. Looks decent.

Ffs there was me thinking I didn't need any more vaping stuff. I got though 8 months mate haha might get myself one

How come grand old team is not so busy.

 

[Rob17896]

https://www.change.org/p/david-came...-moves-to-block-crazy-e-cigarette-regulations

I know it will go down like a lead balloon on here but i'll ask anyway.

If you can sign to support this petition then it will be going a long way to support protecting the vaping industry. There is a vote today in the houses and if the tpd vote is to dismiss it then it could save lives.

The represcussions of the tpd is not just access to vaping, it will protect jobs, companies, it will actually support the government in taxes. It's not just about giving up smoking, but by supporting it you can save a life. The tpd will force people back into smoking and therefore sign a death sentence for every single one of them. It's not for your hipster cloud chasing friend, it's for every single person looking to quit smoking. For every person who can't quit cold Turkey and need something to help them.

If at least one person signs this today then cheers. For all those who are going to wum, feel free, just click the link, click sign and then let rip.

Public Health England suggest vaping is at least 95% less harmful. ETD is crazy as vaping contains no tobacco. Think you will find the cig companies managed to swing this.

 

[Rob17896]

@GrandOldTeam can you please lock this thread, it's encouraging members of GOT to take up a highly addictive danger to health.

Thank you.

Examine the view of Public Health England. Would suggest they know more than you do.

 

[Rob17896]

Doesn't state what the regulation entails. Could you furnish us with the info please?

Only one I've heard about recently was the change to generate a uniform nicotine delivery with each 'puff'. Which I find crazy given that isn't what happens with cigarettes (draw harder and longer, get more nicotine), so why impose it on e-cigarettes?

It is being treated like a tobacco product. It is not. Tobacco companies did not buy ecig firms because they are the next big thing. Tbey want the perception they are as dangerous. They are not by a long way.

 

[The Cowboy]

It is being treated like a tobacco product. It is not. Tobacco companies did not buy ecig firms because they are the next big thing. Tbey want the perception they are as dangerous. They are not by a long way.

Did I read the other day that vaping does the same damage to your heart as smoking?

 

[Ashtonian]

How come grand old team is not so busy.

No transfers mate. And no football this weekend. All we want is to see the blues isn't it ? Lol

Did I read the other day that vaping does the same damage to your heart as smoking?

Yes you did. It was a front page story ran by the scum and it turned out for anyone reading it , they had no proof of it, just speculation. Obviously can't tell you what the article said for obvious reasons. Buy it was full of guess work, almost like it was a paid for propaganda piece for the corrupt and easily bought scum to draw readers in?

Also any study talking about nicotine which I assume it related to is a bit silly wouldn't you agree? Vaping has the same nicotine effect as smoking? Probably because they contain nicotine then? And I would also guess any study would be testing nicotine at full whack like a ciggie, not the lower amounts that most people use.

But I'm speculating there, didn't read the article. Lol

Public Health England suggest vaping is at least 95% less harmful. ETD is crazy as vaping contains no tobacco. Think you will find the cig companies managed to swing this.

Aye fully agree. Most of the articles running are paid for propaganda and even studies are financed through certain means to show certain results. Anything to blacken the name of vaping so they are less encouraged to take it up.

Coincidentally , other anti smoking methods are monopolised by pharmaceutical companies and so they don't want you vaping either so you buy their products!

 

[Bungle]

 

[The Cowboy]

No transfers mate. And no football this weekend. All we want is to see the blues isn't it ? Lol



Yes you did. It was a front page story ran by the scum and it turned out for anyone reading it , they had no proof of it, just speculation. Obviously can't tell you what the article said for obvious reasons. Buy it was full of guess work, almost like it was a paid for propaganda piece for the corrupt and easily bought scum to draw readers in?

Also any study talking about nicotine which I assume it related to is a bit silly wouldn't you agree? Vaping has the same nicotine effect as smoking? Probably because they contain nicotine then? And I would also guess any study would be testing nicotine at full whack like a ciggie, not the lower amounts that most people use.

But I'm speculating there, didn't read the article. Lol



Aye fully agree. Most of the articles running are paid for propaganda and even studies are financed through certain means to show certain results. Anything to blacken the name of vaping so they are less encouraged to take it up.

Coincidentally , other anti smoking methods are monopolised by pharmaceutical companies and so they don't want you vaping either so you buy their products!

If you're speculating and didn't read the article, how do you know they had no proof in it, and it was pure speculation?

We all know you're a champion of the vape, but it's never an especially advisable stance to be so staunch, and flatly denying criticism. If the article is factual, accept it. Vaping, like smoking, is a vice; it will have negative health drawbacks so don't pretend they don't exist.

 

[Rob17896]

Did I read the other day that vaping does the same damage to your heart as smoking?

Check out public health england guidance. No it does not. I dont use it by the way, just have to look at this sort of stuff for work.

 

[Tubey]

See, his heart is fine.

 

[Ashtonian]

If you're speculating and didn't read the article, how do you know they had no proof in it, and it was pure speculation?

We all know you're a champion of the vape, but it's never an especially advisable stance to be so staunch, and flatly denying criticism. If the article is factual, accept it. Vaping, like smoking, is a vice; it will have negative health drawbacks so don't pretend they don't exist.

I read a discussion about said article mate. Where others who aren't so against reading the paper in question pulled the ideas from it. In fact seems moomin has stuck up a telegraph link to the same article now, while thing has no proof, just fear mongering.

To be honest I stand by vaping until actual proof is given to me to say otherwise. I have read countless studies and articles over the past 2 years and still to this day I have not seen anything thst constitutes as actual research into anything negative, just assumptions and guess work. Any negative studies seem to take place in unrealistic environments looking for said negative result rather than naturally finding them. Anything truly independent seems to back it, anything clearly funded seems to be negative.

 

[Bungle]

See, his heart is fine.

I never expected to be able to masturbate to that gif

 

[silent bob]

I never expected to be able to masturbate to that gif

Really??