Were we ever this bad....

[SteStocksDJ]

Under Martinez..

Yes. I'll admit.. the amount of one sided defeats hurt.

But games Vs teams outside of the top6 were never really much of a concern as to what everton would turn up?

I remember bobby saying he would rather get beat by playing the football he wanted....rather than win 1-0 a la allardyce tactics

Question is.... What would you rather have now we know what life has been like without him.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Yes. And we probably will be again. Stuff changes in football.

Edit: Didn't quite read the thread properly but yes we were equally bad at the end of Martinez but at least he produced some good times and had a desire to improve us. It just didn't work out. Sam's behaviour and disregard for the standards of the club are embarassing and we carry a stigma for as long as he stays

 

[Timak]

Well we had the two of best fullbacks in the league, Stones, Lukaku and Barkley and got 48 points so whilst we were nowhere near as awful as now he certainly didn't get the most out of the squad he had.

The fact this team cost £200m+ is the shameful bit and that is on Koeman/Walsh/Allardyce.

 

[orly]

Under Martinez..

Yes. I'll admit.. the amount of one sided defeats hurt.

But games Vs teams outside of the top6 were never really much of a concern as to what everton would turn up?

I remember bobby saying he would rather get beat by playing the football he wanted....rather than win 1-0 a la allardyce tactics

Question is.... What would you rather have now we know what life has been like without him.

Ste genuine question, is that a real collar or one of those clip on ones priests use?

Also yes Martinez very bad.

 

[electricblue]

I'd rather we stop pining over previous managers and got someone in who can actually take the club forward.

 

[SteStocksDJ]

Don't get me wrong.

I'm 100% in the dreamboat that is Fonseca camp.

But. Playing football on the deck has its flaws as we found out under Martinez ... However...if Fonseca is able to recognise when to shut up shop .. then that could be the key to us gaining an extra couple of places in the league. (Assuming he gets the right personnel in to play)

 

[SteStocksDJ]

Ste genuine question, is that a real collar or one of those clip on ones priests use?

Also yes Martinez very bad.

Real collar. Got rejected from the priesthood unfortunately

 

[Connor]

 

[dannyboy]

Under Martinez..

Yes. I'll admit.. the amount of one sided defeats hurt.

But games Vs teams outside of the top6 were never really much of a concern as to what everton would turn up?

I remember bobby saying he would rather get beat by playing the football he wanted....rather than win 1-0 a la allardyce tactics

Question is.... What would you rather have now we know what life has been like without him.

The problem with Martinez is that I really think he had the potential to take us down. We had the nucleus of a really good side and it was being wasted before our eyes. With him in charge right now, I think we'd actually be in a worse position than we currently are.

 

[ToffeeTim]

And Sunderland C.

 

[Connor]

And Sunderland C.

I'm still trying to forget that game ever happened.

 

[SteStocksDJ]

I agree we had the nucleus of a good side...but stones had tried to leave once already... And it was clear lukaku never had any intention of staying more than 5 years. Unless we won the league or qualified for champs league in consecutive years...

Barkley may have stayed. But he also would have still been turning around in circles, fake shotting 35 times before playing a sideways pass.

 

[FC sexy xxx]

i don’t even remember a game with stoke that ended 3-4 ??? Ffs

 

[davek]

"Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief, shining moment, that was known as Camelot."

Everton season 2013/14 - the best since Kendall's first period in charge.

Please dont mention Martinez in relation to Samosaurus, it's like comparing Joy Division to Chaz and Dave.

 

[Connor]

i don’t even remember a game with stoke that ended 3-4 ??? Ffs

Kinell mate, it sticks out so vividly to me.

2-1 down at half-time, 3-2 up with 20 to go.

3-3 last ten and then Stones gave a last kick of the game pen away.