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Holy Bible is by far their best work...so many great songs, how incredible is 4st 7ib? Always gave me the chills that.
It is an absolute masterpiece mate. Funny that Definitely Maybe by Oasis is lauded as one of the best albums ever by the NME. It isn't even the best album released in the same week. Best lyrics of the 90's. Still not as bleak as watching Everton though.

4st 7lb is both beautiful and haunting at the same time.
 
It is an absolute masterpiece mate. Funny that Definitely Maybe by Oasis is lauded as one of the best albums ever by the NME. It isn't even the best album released in the same week. Best lyrics of the 90's. Still not as bleak as watching Everton though.

4st 7lb is both beautiful and haunting at the same time.

The Manics were at their absolute peak: Bradfield's vocals were so rhythmic and biting, as you say timeless deep lyrics from Richey (RIP?) gave the songs a massive edge, also gorgeous icy guitar work, tight drums and very tidy production.

Can't find a decent single upload of this dark brilliance. The 1st link is the remastered version which buggered up the dynamic range. The 2nd link has the lyrics but the audio quality is terrible:



 
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The Manics were at their absolute peak: Bradfield's vocals were so rhythmic and biting, as you say timeless deep lyrics from Richey (RIP?) gave the songs a massive edge, also gorgeous icy guitar work, tight drums and very tidy production.



The way Bradfield pronounces words and annunciates what he says is so unique. And to come up with the hooks and melodies with the lyrics Richie gave him is magic. The whole thing is pretty much a punk rock record, which is why I think I'm drawn to it. It also features the some of my favourite guitar tones. From the buzzsaw rhythm guitars to the one of the filthiest bass tones ever in the start of "Archives of Pain" which I think is my favourite song of the record. Not really checked out much else by the manics, but I don't really feel I have to when I have this record.
 

The Manics were at their absolute peak: Bradfield's vocals were so rhythmic and biting, as you say timeless deep lyrics from Richey (RIP?) gave the songs a massive edge, also gorgeous icy guitar work, tight drums and very tidy production.

Can't find a decent single upload of this dark brilliance. The 1st link is the remastered version which buggered up the dynamic range. The 2nd link has the lyrics but the audio quality is terrible:




I also knew you'd be drawn to "The Intense Humming of Evil" as well with wanting your music to be based on creating a mood.
 
The way Bradfield pronounces words and annunciates what he says is so unique. The whole thing is pretty much a punk rock record, which is why I think I'm drawn to it. It also features the some of my favourite guitar tones. From the buzzsaw rhythm guitars to the one of the filthiest bass tones ever in the start of "Archives of Pain" which I think is my favourite song of the record. Not really checked out much else by the manics, but I don't really feel I have to when I have this record.

haha that's how i feel too...i did try the two earlier albums: they're actually more punk rock in style, some pretty good songs, but collectively they don't have that cultured edge of Holy Bible. I gather many Manics fans at the time were disappointed in Holy Bible, as it was just so different...much more serious in all ways.

Then Richey went missing and they blew up as a three-piece with Everything Must Go, which just sounded like commercial anthemic pop-rock to my ears. Every now & then I'll give their latest album a quick skip-through, but nothing grabbed me like Holy Bible.

I've a similar thing with Mansun: they only made 3 albums, but the middle one (Six) is so outrageously better that it renders the other two obsolete. To a lesser extent also Metallica...Justice For All is the only album from them I still listen to.
 
haha that's how i feel too...i did try the two earlier albums: they're actually more punk rock in style, some pretty good songs, but collectively they don't have that cultured edge of Holy Bible. I gather many Manics fans at the time were disappointed in Holy Bible, as it was just so different...much more serious in all ways.

Then Richey went missing and they blew up as a three-piece with Everything Must Go, which just sounded like commercial anthemic pop-rock to my ears. Every now & then I'll give their latest album a quick skip-through, but nothing grabbed me like Holy Bible.

I've a similar thing with Mansun: they only made 3 albums, but the middle one (Six) is so outrageously better that it renders the other two obsolete. To a lesser extent also Metallica...Justice For All is the only album from them I still listen to.
They played the album in full a couple of years ago, but it was before I had discovered the album. Gutted I couldn't have seen it.

Funnily enough, I'm like that with the Stereophonics. Their debut album is an absolute classic well up there with Oasis at their peak. Pure beer garden anthems with simple, honest lyrics about Kelly Jones' life before the big time. But I can't stand anything else by them.
 
They played the album in full a couple of years ago, but it was before I had discovered the album. Gutted I couldn't have seen it.

Funnily enough, I'm like that with the Stereophonics. Their debut album is an absolute classic well up there with Oasis at their peak. Pure beer garden anthems with simple, honest lyrics about Kelly Jones' life before the big time. But I can't stand anything else by them.

oh wow, you've only recently discovered Holy Bible? I got it on release back in '94...and i still enjoy it 24 years later...sure sign of a classic.
 

oh wow, you've only recently discovered Holy Bible? I got it on release back in '94...and i still enjoy it 24 years later...sure sign of a classic.
Hahaha to be fair Holy Bible came out a week before I was born. I only discovered it through a top 20 albums of all time on a podcast I listen to.

Also how I got into The Smiths.
 
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Hahaha to be fair Holy Bible came out a week before I was born. I only discovered it through a top 20 albums of all time on a podcast I listen to.

great! discovering brilliant older music is such a fine thing, and there's so much out there. i found a lot of my favourite musik in my mid-20's: Can, Einstürzende Neubauten, Arvo Pärt's Tabula Rasa, Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians, Iva Bittova...all thanks be to the internet :cheers:
 

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