What is going on with policing in America?

[chrismpw]

US machismo, a catastrophic failure to have a stiff upper lip in their gene pool and the fact that people are allowed to carry guns is what's happening. The police must be terrified when in and conflict situation or in a crowd, and easily act out of panic (their army seem to do the same, with friendly fire fire). Our rozzas would be the same if guns were so prevalent - we already have a good number of thugs in our force - thank the ghods they're not armed!

 

[Donald Twain]

Amen to mobile phones ! They've got the rogue police beat.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It seems to be a vicious circle that will be hard to get out of. The gun lobby being what it is, not to mention it being written in the Constitution, suggests that gun ownership will always be there in America, which will probably mean the law enforcement agencies will be heavily armed to combat that, and round we go. It's a sad state of affairs and no mistake.

 

[dholliday]

Banning guns would do so much good in USA, but until they do, they'll be in perpetual civil war:

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

 

[sageyefc]

Banning guns would do so much good in USA, but until they do, they'll be in perpetual civil war:

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

Won't see guns being banned over there in my lifetime.

 

[sageyefc]

On the gun issue, they need stricter control and checks for selling guns over there and also the police themselves need to be taught how to shoot to disarm and not shoot to kill

 

[dholliday]

the police themselves need to be taught how to shoot to disarm and not shoot to kill

This is a very crucial point. They seem to be trained to shoot-to-kill.

 

[Toffeelover]

Looks like she deserved it to me.

You have to be kidding Bryan. She was just a kid of about 16/17! What if it was your daughter being treated like that/

Notice the cops only chased blacks.

 

[dholliday]

You have to be kidding Bryan. She was just a kid of about 16/17! What if it was your daughter being treated like that/

Notice the cops only chased blacks.

I'm hoping a couple of members here are being ultra-dry sarcy.

 

[Toffeelover]

I'm hoping a couple of members here are being ultra-dry sarcy.

Then that kind of post distorts a serious debate. Do not need folk making cheap cracks.

 

[Sapie88]

The best thing about that video is when he falls over.

 

[Bungle]

Then that kind of post distorts a serious debate. Do not need folk making cheap cracks.

Agreed mate.

 

[Sapie88]

Agreed mate.

Voice of reason here.

 

[muddy mudguard]

Yanks are Gun toting freaks and I hope I never have to meet one ever in my life

Wow! Just wow!

There's nothing like living in blissful ignorance right??! And by your own definition, I'm assuming you believe all Brits are knife wielding maniacs??

Being a Brit and having lived over here for 6 years now, I can tell you that (certainly in Texas) there are a lot of gun owners, but let's examine a few facts:

A Tale of Two Cities

Chicago, IL Houston, TX

Population 2.7 million 2.15 million


Median HH Income $38,600 $37,000


% African-American 38.9% 24%

% Hispanic 29.9% 44%

% Asian 5.5% 6%

% Non-Hispanic White 28.7% 26%


Pretty similar until you compare the following:

Chicago, IL Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law no yes

# of Gun Stores 0 184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012 1,806 207

Homicides per 100K 38.4 9.6



All I'm saying is that gun ownership and easy access to guns does not necessarily yield the results one would expect. Obviously, Chicago does not have the ease of access that Houston has, yet significantly higher homicide rate.

In fact from wikipedia and the prior year (2011), UK is 653 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate). I know we're not comparing like for like as it's cities and not countries, but I wonder how many of those 653 were committed in London??

 

[Sapie88]

Wow! Just wow!

There's nothing like living in blissful ignorance right??! And by your own definition, I'm assuming you believe all Brits are knife wielding maniacs??

Being a Brit and having lived over here for 6 years now, I can tell you that (certainly in Texas) there are a lot of gun owners, but let's examine a few facts:

A Tale of Two Cities

Chicago, IL Houston, TX

Population 2.7 million 2.15 million


Median HH Income $38,600 $37,000


% African-American 38.9% 24%

% Hispanic 29.9% 44%

% Asian 5.5% 6%

% Non-Hispanic White 28.7% 26%


Pretty similar until you compare the following:

Chicago, IL Houston, TX

Concealed Carry gun law no yes

# of Gun Stores 0 184 - Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns- Walmart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012 1,806 207

Homicides per 100K 38.4 9.6



All I'm saying is that gun ownership and easy access to guns does not necessarily yield the results one would expect. Obviously, Chicago does not have the ease of access that Houston has, yet significantly higher homicide rate.

In fact from wikipedia and the prior year (2011), UK is 653 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate). I know we're not comparing like for like as it's cities and not countries, but I wonder how many of those 653 were committed in London??

I don't understand any of that.