Whatever Happened to the Liverpool Echo?

[jackyboy]

Nah, The Athletic is good and moves the industry forward and has some very good people working for it.

The Echo is a terrible piece of clickbait, run by people wanting clicks and nothing else.

They're nothing alike.

Not for me, Clive.

Don't think absolutely everything needs a dissertation about what a players woodwork teacher thought about them, or the constant desire to reinvent absolutely everything about football.

And as for the apology about the headlock, yikes.

 

[Bombonera]

All above noted and all agreed.
I think what perplexes me is how the likes of Beesley go home at night happy with their day's work given that they really don't do much. It indicates a profound lack of self-respect and that's what foxes me.

Given the loss-making nature of Reach Media, these pretend journalists can't even be doing it for the money. I can't see they're earning enough to forego their self-respect for what they do all day.

 

[anton66]

Became the Liverpool f.c echo.

 

[DavidH]

"Top 10 Scouse Pavements in Der weerrrrldd" then a comment section full of manc tories slagging the city off. Needs putting out of service.

 

[LEONARD]

Rag, dying on it's feet.

 

[Lao]

Those were the days...footie reports by Michael Charters and Charles Lambert, the late racing results in the ‘Stop Press’ (sometimes printed sideways), the ‘late’ Echo, with a star printed next to the liver bird on the front page, the ‘Whats On’ section showing where Supercharge, Groundpig, Strife, Rain or any other brilliant local band were playing that week, well written interesting local news items....and full page TJ Hughes adverts! But it was well worth the 4d or whatever it cost back then.

Grammar, spelling, punctuation, and any form of articulate writing has gone out of the window. Absolute rag, and appalling website.

but I’m just old.

 

[DavidH]

Same with my local online paper, that seems to be affiliated with Wetherspoons, owing to the number of advertorials written about that pub chain.

I mainly skip the articles anyway and head to the comments section. That's where the fun is - proper moaning, cantankerous, nimby types.

The comments section in the echo reads like a Wetherspoons Monday Club 3 in the afternoon rabble chat. Plenty of racist keyboard warriors.

 

[SJB]

We don't want to pay to buy it, a physical copy or online version, and we don't want it to have ads. How do we want them to fund it? It's a business not a charity and the days of any newspaper writing with a loyal customer base in mind are long gone.

And every "newspaper" site regurgitates stories from other sources, we've all been caught out reading a sports story only to get to the second paragraph where they namecheck that horrible rag as the original source of the story haven we?

 

[atrottel]

All above noted and all agreed.
I think what perplexes me is how the likes of Beesley go home at night happy with their day's work given that they really don't do much. It indicates a profound lack of self-respect and that's what foxes me.

Given the loss-making nature of Reach Media, these pretend journalists can't even be doing it for the money. I can't see they're earning enough to forego their self-respect for what they do all day.

Be fair, how many people here are doing a job they dislike to put money on the table? Do you think Daily Mail sub-editors grew up dreaming of writing image captions like 'Flirty Dua Lipa flaunts her sideboob while strutting her stuff at the BIPA awards'?

Journalists are no different and, to be honest, their days are numbered when you see what artificial intelligence is already capable of and how major publishers are already using it in favour of more expensive copywriters.

 

[Bombonera]

I'm starting to get it. I'm old-fashioned and expect workers to have self-respect but these feckers are paid just enough to keep the food on the table with all values and self-respect foregone.
That isn't how I'd like to spend my days and I'm happy with that.
Beesley and those he sits around a table with chatting crap in podcasts, well how can they be happy with what they]'re doing?
None of them do anything to foster relations with people in the club and therefore provide precisely zero first hand information. They are lazy and have no value at all.
Meanwhile Dave Prentice ducked out of his lazy position only to undertake an even lazier one. We hear from him even less from him now that when he took his paycheck from the Echo.
A communications officer who doesn't have to communicate.
Where do I sign up?

 

[Dixieslaces]

I thought about posting it directly in the Everton forum given I'm only interested in the demise of the Echo in that regard but I guess there's a wider perspective.

I'm an old fart and that's how my perspective forms.

When I was growing up, the Echo was the go-to resource. The journalists had connections at the club, they fostered those relationships so that they could deliver first-hand news quickest and honestly and accurately.

And now the Echo seems to rely on second/third-hand sources that most of us paying any attention have already read first or second hand elsewhere.

They're a shameless bunch conning a living it seems to me.

Chris Beesley being the worst Everton reporter I've ever come across in 50 years.

True Journalism and Journalists simply don't exist now, it's not just the Echo, TV has given them "celebrity " and its all talking heads these days.
The Reach Group who I believe control most of the online news media sites plus very much more, don't want proper investigative stories and hacks, they want clicks, simple as.

A real shame but this is what has been created.

 

[Sadken]

It's very expensive.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

The Echo is a disgusting little rag. Its a glorified comic at this point and a bad one at that. Its written by bad kopite whoppers for the benefit of other bad kopite whoppers. Its done nothing but undermine and demean the club for decades now and only occasionally backs us in the most patronising way possible. All that I could live with if it wasn't for the horrendous misinformation and downright lies they spread with regards to the city. They make Liverpool/Merseyside look its Gotham City and populated by scumbags and walking stereotypes. Its embarrassing. The other "stories" they share belong on a crappy blog written by an edgy teenager. Its a vile Publication and the local equivalent of the S*N.

 

[Jeff Jones]

I've got the Echo on favourites but I hardly ever go there and when I do I've already heard the Everton news here.
I used to love the old Messageboard because you it wasn't that big and I could read every post.

I went to BlueKipper and then GOT when it closed down and now only read a fraction of the posts unfortunately, because there are so many of them.

It's been such a long time since I lived in Liverpool that I can't relate to local news.

 

[Eggs]

….delighted when I read @alan ball book & Joe Royle said he’s never read the Echo since he left the Everton managers job.