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When can we start to panic?

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Because we are significantly better than QPR, Crystal Palace, Leicester, Burnley, Hull, West Brom, Sunderland and Villa even in our current form which I do not for a minute believe will continue for the whole season.
Exactly I think we'll turn this around and in the end will become a positive experience speeding up the transition we all know has to occur.
 
We're 4th from bottom on current form so you're half right.

The season is 38 games long, I know our immediate form is poor but I do not expect such a talented squad and manager to maintain such poor form for the remainder of the season.
 
If we put in the same effort at Newcastle - Thats it.

Sack the Lot of them. I'd play the Under 18's and make every single Senior player clean the dressing rooms, impliment some kind of Clockwork Orange Hypno-Psychosis Program and beat them mercilessly for every mistake.

You can only get so far playing nice and we've been here for a while.
 

Agreed with most that relegation is not a risk this season. Too many piss-poor teams in EPL competing for the dubious honour of playing Championship football next season; but therein lies the rub and my huge frustration with [Poor language removed] Martinez...In a season where only Chelsea and Man City look anything like quality, and with EFC having arguably its best quality squad since the mid 80s, Martinez cannot beat the likes of Stoke at Goodison. Ive no faith in our little Spaniard to restore EFC to its rightful position; but am happy for him to prove me wrong. NSNO, COYB
 
Lose this and we're as close to the relegation zone as we are the top 10. That's a turning point for me, when it stops being a case of "back to back wins and we're right back in it" and becomes a case of "when the heck will we win again?"
 

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