its like they are desperate for their own "there's people on the pitch..." momentI could not bear the jingoism of the BBC commentary last night - pure RS style tripe... "the 3 lions adorning his shirt"... "a win made in Manchester".... watched some with a foreign commentary and it was entertaining, made it more like a standard world cup game I can abstract myself from and just enjoy the footy. Will definitely be watching all England games muted/foreign commentary from now on