2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

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Fair view and agree providing he isn't sinking us before end of season. People will hate it, I mean I do too, but he's got one job to do and that's keep us up, that's literally all he's been hired for. I want more, but understand the situation. Get the takeover, the stadium swap done, move forward.
But there were calls he'd improve us and himself a bit, when did it shift back to "oh he's just here to not relegate us"? We finished about midtable last year with him, so for him to come out and say "oh this is a relegation fight" after that shows his own lack of ambition to improve. I was told on here by Neiler himself that with more stability this year would be different, other posters as well. Yet, we're at the exact same spot and look worse, and that belief from them has evaporated and we're back to these players being unable to kick a ball apparently (which has nothing to do with the coach not wanting to coach anyone obviously).

I don't understand the inconsistencies like that (not aimed at you here HC, just in general). All/most of the things people use to defend him to the death are backwards for no reason - i.e. he actually achieves a midtable points tally despite everything, "oh it's a relegation fight anyway, we're in for a tough one" to defend the prerequisite poor start, which will inevitably no longer be an argument when we win a game or two in the next few months. So we can't reasonably expect him to improve as a manager and can write all the mistakes off as he's a relegation manager? Is this how far we've actually sunk as a fanbase, to praise things like this and willfully ignore how poorly he's handled a lot of things in the actual management side, which is his job?

Also, a potential rich new owner and the current manager doesn't want to prove to everyone that he can adapt, move on from the stereotype about himself and change for the better so he can get more resources and all after the takeover is a telling sign of the type of man he is and where his ceiling is also. He's the new Fat Sam - the relegation fight specialist who only knows his one note song and that's that. It's not a bad thing but it limits himself and the team as it's always doomsday thinking and only 1 plan and idea - it was like that when he first came in too, when a stupid red card by Doucoure nearly cost us the season, as it was clearly never worked on to play without him and his chaos mode/50p feet. Last year it was sticking to the same principles as a proper relegation outfit for nearly half a season (always on the backfoot, never taking initiative, no coherent plan, always the same players, just hoof it upfield, etc.) - we woke up, again, in the last 5 games, where it seemed there was a plan to play against some of the teams we faced, but that wasn't there for a ridiculously long time.

Thanks for being the dire manager in these dire times, but this has to be his last year and hopefully we don't do an Everton and delay the next manager signing until mid-july for some reason :lol:
 

Well I certain person who knows more than me and you has said that Thelwell and dyche do work together, but they ain’t bussom buddies. Also DCL’s is not interested in staying, because he hates the style of play and does t really see eye to eye with dyche. Unless Everton have a new plan moving forward, then DCL will be off

There massive red flags, good players don’t want to play for dyche, Onana/DCL how many others ? Did good players turn us down because of dyche and the style. He also wasn’t Thelwell’s choice of manager.

If we want to kick on as a club, you can’t Sean dyche as your manager abs my feeling is, he will be lucky to last the season, but there’s not a chance he stays beyond that
Considering Dyche doesn’t like players not buying into it etc, what does that say about his views on our backup strikers if he is still selecting DCL?
 

Have different info myself mate, have been told they work well together - dont know about a personal relationship - im not sure that's mission critical - to be honest you want a dynamic rather then a talking shop and healthy professional disagreements. Also heard Everton have gone back to DCL over this break, his issue is the maliese at the club in general, he wants to be convinced of the clubs overall ambition is what i was told.

You can spin it any way really, its as easy to say red flags over someone like Onana and for me to say Branthwaite was happy to stay at the club in the summer because Dyche stayed and he has put his faith in him.
Holy Mary, baby Jesus and all the saints
 
Quick question.(s).. Do you think the players have ever threw Dyche under the bus or downed tools?

If the answer to that is no, can we then infer that they're relatively happy with his management?

Does the opinion of the players carry more weight than that of people on the internet?
I've heard from a reliable source that Ndiaye is threatening to kill himself and Pickford if Dyche leaves mate.
 

Branthwaite stayed because Dyche put his faith in him and entrusted him to play ahead of Michael Keane absolutely ended me, I won’t lie.
Can’t believe people are actually pedalling that story when Dyche has literally admitted to not bothering to coach Branthwaite. Branthwaite stayed because man united didn’t meet our valuation and thats it.
 
Quick question.(s).. Do you think the players have ever threw Dyche under the bus or downed tools?

If the answer to that is no, can we then infer that they're relatively happy with his management?

Does the opinion of the players carry more weight than that of people on the internet?

players getting paid

they aren’t assed maybe obie is tho

i bet tho they want a decent manager
 

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