ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[maccavennie]

I love how their fans all still cracking on as though the title race isn’t over yet. They’re trying to create a narrative that it’s some miraculous sporting achievement against all the odds.

I think the fact that just about everyone in the football world has , for at least the last month, acknowledged that they’re going to walk away with the league has made it all feel a bit underwhelming for them. So when they come to rub it in every bodies face when it’s mathematically confirmed and all the lurkers on here post their end game celebrations , no one is going to be all that arsed. With them been the narcissistic show off bellends that they are, this will really eat away at them. Just like the fake Covid title. We’d better make sure we put extra security on the stadium when it’s parade day.

Yep, my missus said yesterday "do you think I can start celebrating yet?". I said yes, just like you could last week, the week before, the week before that and the month before that too.

Basically ensure you tell them it's been the most one sided, boring, rigged title race for years and it boils there piss ever so nicely.

This isn't one of those league title wins where they've been amazing like an Arsenal invincibles and you say "fair play, they've been outstanding". Neither has it been a season where you've gone toe to toe with a stellar rival like Man City and pipped them on the final day.

Nope, this title will show them about 25pts ahead of their nearest rivals Notts Forest and probably Bournemouth or Brighton in the CL places. This title will show the race was won by November. This title will show usual rivals such as Utd and City having their worst ever seasons for about the last 15-20 years.

This title will still show that they stillnneeded additional assistance from refs to help them get the job done by winning about 15 penalties and getting away with not getting players sent off week in week out.

Let them have their title win, I wouldn't even be arsed if they win the league cup or CL either.

No matter how arsed you are, don't ever show them how arsed you are because it's that what boils their piss more than anything.

Let's go to the Pit at the start of April and take 3 points off them

 

[Duncan’s Pigeon Loft]

What would be an ideal finish to the season would be Villa or Arsenal winning the champions league as that would really upset them.

Yes they hate even the smallest amount of spotlight being taken off them. Think they’ll be just too much for Villa in the next round but you never know.

Yep, my missus said yesterday "do you think I can start celebrating yet?". I said yes, just like you could last week, the week before, the week before that and the month before that too.

Basically ensure you tell them it's been the most one sided, boring, rigged title race for years and it boils there piss ever so nicely.

This isn't one of those league title wins where they've been amazing like an Arsenal invincibles and you say "fair play, they've been outstanding". Neither has it been a season where you've gone toe to toe with a stellar rival like Man City and pipped them on the final day.

Nope, this title will show them about 25pts ahead of their nearest rivals Notts Forest and probably Bournemouth or Brighton in the CL places. This title will show the race was won by November. This title will show usual rivals such as Utd and City having their worst ever seasons for about the last 15-20 years.

This title will still show that they stillnneeded additional assistance from refs to help them get the job done by winning about 15 penalties and getting away with not getting players sent off week in week out.

Let them have their title win, I wouldn't even be arsed if they win the league cup or CL either.

No matter how arsed you are, don't ever show them how arsed you are because it's that what boils their piss more than anything.

Let's go to the Pit at the start of April and take 3 points off them

Amen. I actually think it’s been a bit of a none event of a season up and down the league, one of the dullest I can remember.

And yes 3 points at our hand me down ground would be glorious

 

[arch stanton]

I love how their fans all still cracking on as though the title race isn’t over yet. They’re trying to create a narrative that it’s some miraculous sporting achievement against all the odds.

I think the fact that just about everyone in the football world has , for at least the last month, acknowledged that they’re going to walk away with the league has made it all feel a bit underwhelming for them. So when they come to rub it in every bodies face when it’s mathematically confirmed and all the lurkers on here post their end game celebrations , no one is going to be all that arsed. With them been the narcissistic show off bellends that they are, this will really eat away at them. Just like the fake Covid title. We’d better make sure we put extra security on the stadium when it’s parade day.

it is a 'competition' that is set up so only two teams are able to compete at the top for a full season, one of those has an off season and the pother walks away with it. There is no competition, throw in the airlifting by the officials when it may get a bit fruity for them and voila, as stroll to another * title.

 

[Saint Domingo]

it is a 'competition' that is set up so only two teams are able to compete at the top for a full season, one of those has an off season and the pother walks away with it. There is no competition, throw in the airlifting by the officials when it may get a bit fruity for them and voila, as stroll to another * title.

It’s funny how when City were a lot of points ahead it was bad for the league for title races to be over before the last day, but when Liverpool win it in February thats all good apparently.

Bit like the bottom three race. When we were in it there were bizarre referee calls all over the place to ensure it went on as long as possible. Now we’re not they’re gladly letting the bottom 3 be cut away by middle of March.

 

[maccavennie]

Yes they hate even the smallest amount of spotlight being taken off them. Think they’ll be just too much for Villa in the next round but you never know.


Amen. I actually think it’s been a bit of a none event of a season up and down the league, one of the dullest I can remember.

And yes 3 points at our hand me down ground would be glorious

Yep, both ends of the table it's been pathetic really.

The best battle is between 4th and 8th which seems to change every week.

 

[Runub]

 

[NathDogg]

How’s that not reckless and endangering the opponent…..

We’ve had players sent off for far less.

 

[DeeCee]

Thought id make a cuppa. Put the radio on and Henry Winter is on the radio talking about liverpool decisions.
"Yes they got some decisions yesterday but what about decisions against them like the merseyside derby a few weeks ago"
What decisions? So because they cried and moaned coz they basically conceded a late equaliser thats now regarded as decisions against them.
Pathetic media bias.

Think their complaint was (in that game) they had 63% possession and conceded 20 fouls versus 37% possession and conceding 9 fouls. So the team with less possession, having to make more tackles etc. gave up 9 fouls, while the team who had the ball more, thus having to make less tackles, gave up 20 fouls.

This bloke goes apeshit over a longer period (copy pasted his rant below link).

The Dodgy Derby – The Annual Refereeing Shitshow at Goodison in Damning Data

Everton’s Foul Balance is more than 10x higher than normal for them in home derbies

tomkinstimes.substack.com

Dodgy Derby​

In a Goodison derby, you are guaranteed that the home side will be fired up, aggressive, playing long-balls to big bastards, and roughing up the Reds. That’s their game-plan, year after year, under Sean Dyche and now the absolute master of the mediocre, David Moyes.

Indeed, Everton are possibly never more outplayed at home than by Liverpool (perhaps Man City’s underlying numbers are better at Goodison?), and yet the Foul Balance makes zero sense. Zero.

Liverpool dominate everything, by a country mile; and yet are penalised at an insane and illogical rate.

Last season ended with a Foul Balance of -7, but just before half-time, when Everton took the lead, the Foul Balance was -9, in that it was nine free-kicks to Everton, zero to Liverpool. (Earlier this season, Liverpool were into the second half at Crystal Palace with the foul count of 11 against, 0 for.)

This is game-management by a ref, allowing one team to play, kneecapping the other. This is controlling the traffic, as it were; stopping the team that wants rhythm, giving free-kicks to the team that wants them to launch it into the mixer. When David Moyes said last night that it was good that the ref let quite a lot go (as did the broadcasters), I’m not sure if he or they were aware of how Oliver let quite a lot go to suit Everton, and penalised Liverpool TWENTY times.

At Goodison since 2020, Liverpool possession has averaged 66.5% to Everton’s 33.5%, and Dominance (shots+corners) is 104 to the Reds, and 64 to Everton, or 62.5% higher for the visitors.

Yet Everton have received a staggering and scarcely comprehensible SIXTY free-kicks in the last four Goodison games, to Liverpool’s 30.

SIXTY!

Sixty free-kicks in just four games, while conceding only 30.

Everton’s average Foul Balance goes from a normal home figure of +0.6 to +7.5 whenever Liverpool are in town.

 

[TheDude19]

What have I just read.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[Gilbert..]

Think their complaint was (in that game) they had 63% possession and conceded 20 fouls versus 37% possession and conceding 9 fouls. So the team with less possession, having to make more tackles etc. gave up 9 fouls, while the team who had the ball more, thus having to make less tackles, gave up 20 fouls.

This bloke goes apeshit over a longer period (copy pasted his rant below link).

The Dodgy Derby – The Annual Refereeing Shitshow at Goodison in Damning Data

Everton’s Foul Balance is more than 10x higher than normal for them in home derbies

tomkinstimes.substack.com

Dodgy Derby​

In a Goodison derby, you are guaranteed that the home side will be fired up, aggressive, playing long-balls to big bastards, and roughing up the Reds. That’s their game-plan, year after year, under Sean Dyche and now the absolute master of the mediocre, David Moyes.

Indeed, Everton are possibly never more outplayed at home than by Liverpool (perhaps Man City’s underlying numbers are better at Goodison?), and yet the Foul Balance makes zero sense. Zero.

Liverpool dominate everything, by a country mile; and yet are penalised at an insane and illogical rate.

Last season ended with a Foul Balance of -7, but just before half-time, when Everton took the lead, the Foul Balance was -9, in that it was nine free-kicks to Everton, zero to Liverpool. (Earlier this season, Liverpool were into the second half at Crystal Palace with the foul count of 11 against, 0 for.)

This is game-management by a ref, allowing one team to play, kneecapping the other. This is controlling the traffic, as it were; stopping the team that wants rhythm, giving free-kicks to the team that wants them to launch it into the mixer. When David Moyes said last night that it was good that the ref let quite a lot go (as did the broadcasters), I’m not sure if he or they were aware of how Oliver let quite a lot go to suit Everton, and penalised Liverpool TWENTY times.

At Goodison since 2020, Liverpool possession has averaged 66.5% to Everton’s 33.5%, and Dominance (shots+corners) is 104 to the Reds, and 64 to Everton, or 62.5% higher for the visitors.

Yet Everton have received a staggering and scarcely comprehensible SIXTY free-kicks in the last four Goodison games, to Liverpool’s 30.

SIXTY!

Sixty free-kicks in just four games, while conceding only 30.

Everton’s average Foul Balance goes from a normal home figure of +0.6 to +7.5 whenever Liverpool are in town.

Christ he needs to get out of his bedroom a bit more.
Foul balance lol

 

[TGW89]

Think their complaint was (in that game) they had 63% possession and conceded 20 fouls versus 37% possession and conceding 9 fouls. So the team with less possession, having to make more tackles etc. gave up 9 fouls, while the team who had the ball more, thus having to make less tackles, gave up 20 fouls.

This bloke goes apeshit over a longer period (copy pasted his rant below link).

The Dodgy Derby – The Annual Refereeing Shitshow at Goodison in Damning Data

Everton’s Foul Balance is more than 10x higher than normal for them in home derbies

tomkinstimes.substack.com

You know I wasn't ordained to follow any particular team. My dad liked rugby growing up... and yes, sometimes I do wonder what I've missed out on by choosing the blue route.

I could have been in that pic with my best mate celebrating the RS' UCL win in 2005. The memories I could have had alongside my grandad and great aunt in the Centenary stand, the endless street cred from (soon to be) 20 league titles, the (likely) 7 European cups, and winning the EFL Cup with the same effort it takes me to flick a light switch. Lord knows these cringy Meetups with fellow 'yo-pros' from every wool town imaginable would be far less awkward.

But then I'd be one of them. Believing that I above all others somehow made all that happen, despite the fact that 17 of their titles and four of their European cups predate my birth. I'd represent everything football should stand against - greed, corruption, murder, poor sportsmanship.... and more recently, forced evictions.

That I have avoided being one of 'them' is the greatest victory anyone can ask for.

 

[Tipp blue]

Think their complaint was (in that game) they had 63% possession and conceded 20 fouls versus 37% possession and conceding 9 fouls. So the team with less possession, having to make more tackles etc. gave up 9 fouls, while the team who had the ball more, thus having to make less tackles, gave up 20 fouls.

This bloke goes apeshit over a longer period (copy pasted his rant below link).

The Dodgy Derby – The Annual Refereeing Shitshow at Goodison in Damning Data

Everton’s Foul Balance is more than 10x higher than normal for them in home derbies

tomkinstimes.substack.com

Dodgy Derby​

In a Goodison derby, you are guaranteed that the home side will be fired up, aggressive, playing long-balls to big bastards, and roughing up the Reds. That’s their game-plan, year after year, under Sean Dyche and now the absolute master of the mediocre, David Moyes.

Indeed, Everton are possibly never more outplayed at home than by Liverpool (perhaps Man City’s underlying numbers are better at Goodison?), and yet the Foul Balance makes zero sense. Zero.

Liverpool dominate everything, by a country mile; and yet are penalised at an insane and illogical rate.

Last season ended with a Foul Balance of -7, but just before half-time, when Everton took the lead, the Foul Balance was -9, in that it was nine free-kicks to Everton, zero to Liverpool. (Earlier this season, Liverpool were into the second half at Crystal Palace with the foul count of 11 against, 0 for.)

This is game-management by a ref, allowing one team to play, kneecapping the other. This is controlling the traffic, as it were; stopping the team that wants rhythm, giving free-kicks to the team that wants them to launch it into the mixer. When David Moyes said last night that it was good that the ref let quite a lot go (as did the broadcasters), I’m not sure if he or they were aware of how Oliver let quite a lot go to suit Everton, and penalised Liverpool TWENTY times.

At Goodison since 2020, Liverpool possession has averaged 66.5% to Everton’s 33.5%, and Dominance (shots+corners) is 104 to the Reds, and 64 to Everton, or 62.5% higher for the visitors.

Yet Everton have received a staggering and scarcely comprehensible SIXTY free-kicks in the last four Goodison games, to Liverpool’s 30.

SIXTY!

Sixty free-kicks in just four games, while conceding only 30.

Everton’s average Foul Balance goes from a normal home figure of +0.6 to +7.5 whenever Liverpool are in town.

About to win the league, Favorites for the CL, In the Carabao cup final... Seasons ruined because the "foul balance" is in Everton's favor. I would gladly trade "foul balance" for a penalty whenever we could do with one.

 

[ste d' indica]

Think their complaint was (in that game) they had 63% possession and conceded 20 fouls versus 37% possession and conceding 9 fouls. So the team with less possession, having to make more tackles etc. gave up 9 fouls, while the team who had the ball more, thus having to make less tackles, gave up 20 fouls.

This bloke goes apeshit over a longer period (copy pasted his rant below link).

The Dodgy Derby – The Annual Refereeing Shitshow at Goodison in Damning Data

Everton’s Foul Balance is more than 10x higher than normal for them in home derbies

tomkinstimes.substack.com

Dodgy Derby​

In a Goodison derby, you are guaranteed that the home side will be fired up, aggressive, playing long-balls to big bastards, and roughing up the Reds. That’s their game-plan, year after year, under Sean Dyche and now the absolute master of the mediocre, David Moyes.

Indeed, Everton are possibly never more outplayed at home than by Liverpool (perhaps Man City’s underlying numbers are better at Goodison?), and yet the Foul Balance makes zero sense. Zero.

Liverpool dominate everything, by a country mile; and yet are penalised at an insane and illogical rate.

Last season ended with a Foul Balance of -7, but just before half-time, when Everton took the lead, the Foul Balance was -9, in that it was nine free-kicks to Everton, zero to Liverpool. (Earlier this season, Liverpool were into the second half at Crystal Palace with the foul count of 11 against, 0 for.)

This is game-management by a ref, allowing one team to play, kneecapping the other. This is controlling the traffic, as it were; stopping the team that wants rhythm, giving free-kicks to the team that wants them to launch it into the mixer. When David Moyes said last night that it was good that the ref let quite a lot go (as did the broadcasters), I’m not sure if he or they were aware of how Oliver let quite a lot go to suit Everton, and penalised Liverpool TWENTY times.

At Goodison since 2020, Liverpool possession has averaged 66.5% to Everton’s 33.5%, and Dominance (shots+corners) is 104 to the Reds, and 64 to Everton, or 62.5% higher for the visitors.

Yet Everton have received a staggering and scarcely comprehensible SIXTY free-kicks in the last four Goodison games, to Liverpool’s 30.

SIXTY!

Sixty free-kicks in just four games, while conceding only 30.

Everton’s average Foul Balance goes from a normal home figure of +0.6 to +7.5 whenever Liverpool are in town.

I assume this was originally written on the walls of his cell. In excrement.

 

[canuckblue]

I assume this was originally written on the walls of his cell. In excrement.

Problem is they can't write, mate.