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Morgan Schneiderlin

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The binman chronicles said:
Wanyama was let go for that price as he was 1 year away from going for nothing. Now we could sit around waiting for every players contracts that we want to run down but I'd rather we just get on and sign them.

We can play moneyball with the Lookman type transfers.
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Schneiderlin is 18 months away from being able to opt to sign for a free himself.
 
gaino92 said:
The market is the market Dave you either pay what it takes or you fall behind. Gueye had a release clause and Wanayama possibly did and was also in the last year of his contract
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We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
 

davek said:
We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
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Don't worry yourself with sell on fees Dave, Usmanov is gonna come in on his beautiful rainbow coloured unicorn and make it rain with 50's, we'll get 4/5 years of good service from the lad and wont have to worry about any sell on value
 
davek said:
We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
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But you'd spunk cash on Sigurdsson who is the same situation and would cost more.
 
John Osters Love Child said:
Mourinho is going to recoup more than the cash he laid out for Gundogan by selling Everton Schneiderlin. Lol.

Sissoko went for £30m, we sold Felliani for £27m, Bournemouth paid £15m for Jordan Ibe - what's your point?
I may be wrong but wasn't Gundogan into the last year of contract when City signed him - and injured? So your argument is we're getting jibbed because City paid 2-4 million less for a player that they could have gotten for free in a year than we might pay for an French international, with premierleague experience who still has 3 years left on his current contract?

Are you this negative in all walks of life Dave mate? I bet you don't fart for fear of poopin' yourself
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Look, whatever way you want to cut it (contract expiry date/today's inflated prices etc etc) the overriding fact is that, as with Bollasie, we are paying over the odds for a player who has achieved nothing and will be practically worthless as an asset to sell in the future. Already the £27M paid for Bollasie has been pissed up against a wall. He was overpaid for and now he has a serious injury record. Guess how much we'll get for a player in his early 30s like that? Zip.
 

carolinablue232 said:
But you'd spunk cash on Sigurdsson who is the same situation and would cost more.
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Are you actually comparing a player of quality like him to Schneiderlin?! Sigurdsson is a proven game changer of a player. He turns games and wins them on his own. £20M for him I could understand. £20M on another cm I cant...especially when the sell on will be a fraction of what he cost.
 
davek said:
We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
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Could win player of the year next and we could sell him to real madrid for 30 million, you really dont know, hes 31 in 4 years time, which is ages away.
United got Zlatan this year at the age of 35 but had to fork out a wage of 200k a week. Is he a waste of a massive wage cause of his age?

If schneiderlin comes in and gets 10 goals/assists would you say that was a waste of money?
 
davek said:
Look, whatever way you want to cut it (contract expiry date/today's inflated prices etc etc) the overriding fact is that, as with Bollasie, we are paying over the odds for a player who has achieved nothing and will be practically worthless as an asset to sell in the future. Already the £27M paid for Bollasie has been pissed up against a wall. He was overpaid for and now he has a serious injury record. Guess how much we'll get for a player in his early 30s like that? Zip.
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They dont care about that. they want players for now..
 
davek said:
We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
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Wait there, Walsh was brought into get the players to fit into Koemans style; the price you pay is irrelevant.

But seeing as your crying again, let's look it from a different perspective. Walsh goes and buys 5 unknowns for £50m and we sell lukaku for £65m. You'll be beating the same drum about net spend.

The club can't win with you. We overspend and you moan, we underspend and you bitch.

Wind it in for once in a while ffs
 
davek said:
We brought Walsh in to avoid nonsense fees for established players. That's not happening here. It has to be that Koeman is overriding this process and spending cash on a player he's had in the past. Good for him in the short term as he doesn't have to coach anything new and he likes the player; bad for us when we have to shift a 31 year old who cost 20 odd million out in the near future.
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We brought Walsh in to unearth gems and potential to go alongside established players.
Why would we have to ship him out in four years time?
 

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