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2015 post UK election discussion

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the esk said:
That is a very interesting point. Currently born out by statistics, but is it right?

Surely all children are born equal regardless of their parent's relative wealth?

So how about creating a society that rewards talent and effort regardless of background?
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That would be nice Esk but it doesn't happen anywhere on planet Earth..........
 

edge said:
you know what mate till you go through it you wouldn't believe how screwed against the male, cost me everything house possessions kids,despite being the innocent party, schools even backing me , didn't make a diffrence,she was a mother that trumped being a dad, needs looking into
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The whole of society is screwed against men.

Sure Cameron wants to come out and say single parents or even single mothers are the biggest threat to society but couldn't. He had to use the term absentee fathers.

That's the problem no one puts any blame on women for anything. If they get pregnant by a man who can't or won't pay then they're matrys doing their best. There's no blame which says don't [Poor language removed] those men to begin with.

I blame both men and women. I'm for equality. The worse thing is even when men do the right thing they get screwed.
 

Tree13 said:
According to the article posted a couple pages back by @Jib in lad , the first five years cost just over £70k in total. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11360819/Average-cost-of-raising-a-child-in-UK-230000.html

Your points aren't making much sense to me mate. I would never, ever consider taking on a responsibility as profound as raising a child without planning how to financially support the whole thing first. And how could we as a couple possibly NOT miss her income when faced with the costs listed in that article?
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I really would not believe everything you read in the papers.
Yr 1. Food costs - minimal especially if breastfeeding. Clothing - minimal. You will be given a ridiculous amount of new and 2nd hand. Toys - minimal. Again you will be given loads or they will be fascinated by boxes, pans and other everyday items etc.
Take a full year's maternity. Losses from earnings will be negated by the fact you no longer go out to the pub, restaurants etc. You'll be more than content staying in anyway. The Mrs won't go shopping so much, as she fits back into the pre pregnancy clothes. Small sacrifices won't feel like sacrifices at all and time with the little one will make you feel like the richest people on earth.

Year 2 onwards becomes trickier. The Mrs will probably be torn between being a stay at home mum and returning to work. Either way you will miss out financially. Child care is expensive but you can cope. You could of course be prepared to change your working lifestyle. Can flexible working be accommodated for example? You have the right to request it. Can you minimise the amount of childcare required by working around it. Not everyone can. Not everyone wants to, but it is an option. My Mrs did home tuition in the evenings to bring in a few extra pennies for example.

As Esk said earlier. Now is the time to be ambitious with careers. You can use the fact you are a new parent to your advantage in job interviews. You can speak of the responsibility and dedication without it being bull and potential employers see someone who's prepared to graft in order to provide. They may even have a little sympathy for your situation although I wouldn't milk that one.

Life won't be the same as it was before and planning that it will is not necessarily the best way. Like I said, the Mrs may have all the intentions of returning to work and then suddenly choose to stay at home and not miss out on the early years. Would you deny her that?

Sometimes you just have to wing it.
 

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