2015 post UK election discussion

[peteblue]

Also highlights the stupidity of the First Past the Post system.

Nearly 50% of the seats with 36% of the vote? Sound logic.

This will be a massive issue. In terms of votes achieved the Party ranking is....

CON 36.8
LAB 30.5
UKIP 12.6
LD 7.7
SNP 4.8
GRN 3.8

But I doubt that the people who voted for the likes of UKIP will get the respect they deserve......

 

[The Esk]

At the end of the day more people voted in what they considered to be their own interests than voted in the interests of the needy in society.

This of course, is the usual way the world goes about its' interests, I'd hoped with our history of the NHS, benefits and social care we had a population that places a value on the common good.

It seems that is not the case.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Cue lots of deals and that in Europe.

I'm not so sure the Germans will be so keen.

 

[SNova]

Yeah, thats another way of putting it!

I agree with your point about the sleepy Tory vote; said similar myself in the other thread.

It's because lefties attack anyone who is considered right wing.

 

[TomDixie]

Mandelson put it best for me by saying that Labour have been squeezed by the SNP and the reactionary English nationalism generated by the Tories.

Merseyside has never felt "English" in the nationalistic sense, hence why it didn't see similar patterns to elsewhere.

Meanwhile, I voted in Bermondsey, London, where there was a big Lib Dem swing to Labour. This was probably down to the latent demographics, with it actually being quite surprising that Simon Hughes had held the seat since the 80s.

 

[The Esk]

Meanwhile, I voted in Bermondsey, London, where there was a big Lib Dem swing to Labour. This was probably down to the latent demographics, with it actually being quite surprising that Simon Hughes had held the seat since the 80s.

To be fair to Simon Hughes, putting party politics to one side, he has been a brilliant constituency MP. He's been a real public servant

 

[roydo]

At the end of the day more people voted in what they considered to be their own interests than voted in the interests of the needy in society.

This of course, is the usual way the world goes about its' interests, I'd hoped with our history of the NHS, benefits and social care we had a population that places a value on the common good.

It seems that is not the case.

Or they voted for who they thought could best deliver a better society? Rightly or wrongly. Or out of a fear of the unknown? Tribal loyalties? Giving someone a kicking? Nationalism? A decent local MP?

Or a bit of all of them. Dunno me.

 

[Woolly Blue]

At the end of the day more people voted in what they considered to be their own interests than voted in the interests of the needy in society.

This of course, is the usual way the world goes about its' interests, I'd hoped with our history of the NHS, benefits and social care we had a population that places a value on the common good.

It seems that is not the case.

Quite simply, Labour weren't smart enough.

Blair, for all his faults, managed to appeal to the centre, which is where elections are won. Sadly, I doubt the lesson will be learnt. Without a major downturn in the economy I think we're looking at another 10 years of Tory rule rather than 5.

 

[Tubey]

Or they voted for who they thought could best deliver a better society? Rightly or wrongly. Or out of a fear of the unknown? Tribal loyalties? Giving someone a kicking? Nationalism? A decent local MP?

Or a bit of all of them. Dunno me.

Bold part, I very much doubt.

The rest, yeah, all of them factors.

 

[The Esk]

Or they voted for who they thought could best deliver a better society? Rightly or wrongly. Or out of a fear of the unknown? Tribal loyalties? Giving someone a kicking? Nationalism? A decent local MP?

Or a bit of all of them. Dunno me.

Perhaps mate, but with the changes in welfare policy coming over the next 5 years, there was a clear choice which many have ignored.

 

[Jxg]

At the end of the day more people voted in what they considered to be their own interests than voted in the interests of the needy in society.

This of course, is the usual way the world goes about its' interests, I'd hoped with our history of the NHS, benefits and social care we had a population that places a value on the common good.

It seems that is not the case.

Exactly how everyone should vote. Charity begins at home, not in the polling booth.

Obviously the needy and charity are two different things, but the concept is still the same. People should vote in their interests, not in the interests of others.

As for that last bit, that sounds seriously communist. Thankfully the majority of society doesn't agree with it.

 

[Tubey]

Nigel Farage fake-resigns haha - the guy is a character.

 

[roydo]

Perhaps mate, but with the changes in welfare policy coming over the next 5 years, there was a clear choice which many have ignored.

On reflection, that all got a bit drowned out/ignored really.

But on a different tack, it will interesting to see who the Labour party go for when Ed goes, which seems nailed on listening to John Piennar just now.

 

[Groucho]

Nigel Farage fake-resigns haha - the guy is a character.

I thought Miliband and Clegg would go before him.

 

[McBain]

I hate to say I told you so, but they way they do it here is to own the working class rags and bleat on about how bad Labor are, despite the fact that they just make up whatever they can to tow the Murdoch line.

Because it is actually Murdoch who calls the shots you do realise by now.