2016-2020=What a disaster!

[Toffee90]

Football was played by fat arl arses who smoked 20 a day and drank bitter at half time back then, there was no money in it and relegation had no consequences.

Haha I’m not even getting into this!

 

[Saint Domingo]

Should have given £50m to Martinez.

Stones McCarthy Barkley Lukaku and the best full back pairing in the league. How did we end up here from that position .

 

[diggerdestroyer]

The dates coincide with Davies and DCL being in the team.. just coincidence I’m sure..

I was on for giving both time but I reality both are bang average players. Dcl will never score enough goals. He was poor but has had a improved season in fairness to him and has shown some qualities. Still way off a top forward needed to progress everton. Davis is shocking. I really thought years ago he could turn into a top midfielder but he has actually regressed into a championship player. Both getting tremendous amounts of game time shows we are where we belong. Lower mid table team.

 

[mkrudden]

Stones McCarthy Barkley Lukaku and the best full back pairing in the league. How did we end up here from that position .

All jokes aside about Martinez, the point you raise is the real kicker isn't it.

380m spent and look at the fruits of our efforts. Absolute crap.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

Stones McCarthy Barkley Lukaku and the best full back pairing in the league. How did we end up here from that position .

Sold good players. Bought rubbish.

 

[barneygumble]

Oh 100% on Walsh. But maybe if Kenwright/Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh all hadn't of gone to war, signing Number 10's for a grand total of £78m, and seen the glaring hole up top we'd be far better off.

The whole model was wrong from the off. Liverpool for example paid less for Salah, Firmino and Mane than we did for Sigurdsson. They're all now 28, Sigurdsson is 31 in 6 weeks, well on the decline.

We lost Lukaku, who was big and powerful and pacey when he needed to be. We didn't replace him and whilst I like the idea of signing talent from Europe, it was a huge risk paying £27m for Tosun at 27-yo was a huge, and unsurprisingly underwhelming signing.

We've been crying out for a battler since Barry left, but someone with legs and more pace. So since then we've signed Gomes, and let Davies play 100-games. Gomes is a player who realistically will be good, with someone who does the hard work. Last year he was delightful next to Gana. But is slower than a large boat.

Loads of teams recruit young lads, with promise for wingers. We signed Bernard, who will be good for someone in Spain or France, but it's too physical for him. We signed Iwobi and Walcott. Now i don;t hate Walcott, but guess what? He's over 30 too. Iwobi played 100 times for Arsenal, they realised he wasn't good enough for them, yet we still paid £28m for him... and still think after 103 games (And just 5 goals) that Tom Davies can do a job.

Too much faith in garbage, and signing slow players. Not hard? Beat teams with pace and desire.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

It started with the hiring of Steve Walsh

I am still firmly in the belief that Walsh did far more damage here than anyone gives him credit for.

Moshiri using bill as some sort of expert was a issue as well, hence the manager issues we had.

But Walsh ran this club into the ground. The sheer amount of money wasted by him, not mis spent but wasted. The amount of wages we pay out for players who aren't even at the club or aren't anywhere near the team to this day, at least a million a week. These aren't small fry numbers.

It was Walsh who bought 4 players for the same position. It was Walsh who didn't sign koeman a defender or striker. It was Walsh who didn't replace Lukaku. It was Walsh who oversaw the most embarrassing moment in our modern history bringing allardyce and that rat to the club.

Him and koeman. Koeman pushed the siggy buy. He stated alot depended on getting siggy in. This when he had Rooney and Davy k both who could play in a similiar position. Madness when we were crying out for a top forward. I'm mean genuinely real madness.

 

[Yarrgh]

Football was played by fat arl arses who smoked 20 a match and drank bitter at half time back then, there was no money in it and relegation had no consequences.

Fixed - the good old days. Who was it that used to come on after half time with his hands concealing a roll up that smoked away until he had his last crafty drag? My dad always laughed about it, but I can't remember who he said it was.

 

[Saint Domingo]

All jokes aside about Martinez, the point you raise is the real kicker isn't it.

380m spent and look at the fruits of our efforts. Absolute crap.

Even putting aside my jokes about him, from a board perspective we had a manager who had put together a brilliant season in 13/14 and what did we do that summer? Allowed him to buy the players he already had plus some free transfer and minor purchases. Just wasn’t enough especially with some of his key players like Pienaar Distin Jagielka slowing down. We should have gone, there you go Roberto there’s the class wide forward you wanted and the centreback partner to Stones you needed to crack the top 4. We don’t back managers from a position of strength though. Same with Moyes in 07/08.

 

[davek]

Is he physicall turning into Bill Kenwright before our very eyes?

Kenwright was a visionary in comparison with this carpetbagger.

Half a billion spent (the vast majority of it generated by player sales and the massive increase in tv cash at the point he came in) and he's overseem a disaster with it.

How on earth do you manage that? He's a 'kin calamity.

 

[Aberblue]

Even putting aside my jokes about him, from a board perspective we had a manager who had put together a brilliant season in 13/14 and what did we do that summer? Allowed him to buy the players he already had plus some free transfer and minor purchases. Just wasn’t enough especially with some of his key players like Pienaar Distin Jagielka slowing down. We should have gone, there you go Roberto there’s the class wide forward you wanted and the centreback partner to Stones you needed to crack the top 4. We don’t back managers from a position of strength though. Same with Moyes in 07/08.

You only have to look at who Martinez bought when he had money - Kone £6M, fairly substantial money then and Niasse; wasn't he our third most expensive player ever when we bought him? Also his transfer record at Wigan was pretty poor. Martinez started the rot that continued with Walsh, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva.

 

[BornBlue76]

You only have to look at who Martinez bought when he had money - Kone £6M, fairly substantial money then and Niasse; wasn't he our third most expensive player ever when we bought him? Also his transfer record at Wigan was pretty poor. Martinez started the rot that continued with Walsh, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva.

Martinez stumped up £28m for Lukaku and talked him into coming to us. This alone made his a transfer market winner ! He was prone to the odd Niasse.. but doesn’t detract from overall he was far more all on the ball than any manager since in the market.

 

[BlueStevie35]

A near relegated team at home? The cup derby was potentially just worse.

Nothing will ever be worse than twice, that’s TWICE, needing to get a result to remain a top flight club on the final day, and doing so by the skin of our teeth thanks to results going our way

 

[Neiler]

Stones McCarthy Barkley Lukaku and the best full back pairing in the league. How did we end up here from that position .

By spending about 300 million.

 

[Kenshin]

You only have to look at who Martinez bought when he had money - Kone £6M, fairly substantial money then and Niasse; wasn't he our third most expensive player ever when we bought him? Also his transfer record at Wigan was pretty poor. Martinez started the rot that continued with Walsh, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva.

Martinez stumped up £28m for Lukaku and talked him into coming to us. This alone made his a transfer market winner ! He was prone to the odd Niasse.. but doesn’t detract from overall he was far more all on the ball than any manager since in the market.

Martinez took a mid table Steve Bruce Wigan and relegated them and look where they are now.

No different to Eddie Howe potentially relegating Bournemouth after poor signings building up over the years in the top flight.