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2024/25 Relegation Thread

matty1878 said:
yearh they’ve bought us on banking we’re in the best league in the world

so protect what you’ve bought and act
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Exactly. If they don’t act now, we will 100 per cent be relegated. If they do act now we MAY still be relegated but they have optionality as of now.

If they prevaricate, we will be relegated and they will be looking to sell an even more loss making car crash in 2026.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Ultimately, Everton are the only team in the Prem to make a profit over 5 years.

We're relying on other teams cast offs/ loans just to put a team out.

Everton have to spend and apologists to that reality are misguided at best.
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We also had one of the highest wage bills in the league.

The wage bill has been cut back a bit but we spent beyond our means. Moshiri and co took a gamble and hoped we would secure European football on a regular basis.

The gamble failed.
 

GrandOldTeam said:
Even when we had a spell when we did actually spend, a lot of teams spend that all the time anyway.

People moaned at us signing Sigurdsson etc but to be fair we weren't fighting relegation when we were able to spend.
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Yeah I think we’d been that starved under Kenwright a lot of our support acted like we were the biggest spenders and we may have been for a summer, but a lot of that was recouped through the sales of Lukaku and Stones. Subsequent teams have spent more than we ever did and of course the top clubs spend similar amounts to ours, season in and season out at standard.

It needed better spending and a more sustained period of it, but that was completely done by not realising transfer sales because the purchases had been so poor, the stadium being given the green light and of course the geo-political situation.
 
Moomin said:
We also had one of the highest wage bills in the league.

The wage bill has been cut back a bit but we spent beyond our means. Moshiri and co took a gamble and hoped we would secure European football on a regular basis.

The gamble failed.
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The safety net they had was pulled with Russia's invasion and the sanctions turning the tap off from Usmanov.

The stadium would be called USM Arena now, and Usmanov would have formally come on after the stadium was complete.
 
Dublin blue 75 said:
If we are in championship, we are screwed. The math (as the friedkins might say) no longer add up.

Hence they need to act now.
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I agree with this up to a point. However, we are a bit less screwed if we go down than we could have been. The stadium is finished (or will be by the summer), the debt has been restructured and the predatory lenders are no longer in the picture and our costs have come down considerably and, with the current contract situation with the playing squad, will be even lower on the 1st July.

Don't get me wrong, relegation would be a catastrophe, but it's not necessarily the extinction level event that it would have been a year ago under Moshiri.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Beto - We only had Calvert-Lewin and the window was days from closing. We hadn't scored a goal, had big doubts over Calvert-Lewins fitness and we had £0 to spend. Literally, £0 upfront. I understand that.

O'Brien - Signed because of ownership shenanigans/John Textor.

Chermiti - time will tell but again, you're talking buttons in the Premier League. Id be surprised if we've paid more than £5m so far for him.

This is a thread about relegation and my view is this team needs big investment to move away from relegation fodder.

Actually, it needs big investment just to be able to field a match day squad from August
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Big investment in a January window is highly unlikely. That needs to wait to a summer window, where we need to go for a full overhaul of the squad.

This month we need a couple of smart signings to give us a boost. A full back and an attacker would be the obvious positions. Unfortunately our poor loan signings last summer gives us a lack of options and flexibility.

But we don't have time to just sit and wait for the summer and fail to act now. We can't overhaul our squad in 3 weeks, but we can get a boost from a new manager. Every game we go by without changing the manager, is another huge mistake by the ownership. I have no concerns whatsoever if we make the change now, but things will get worse and worse under Dyche.

No one is going to disagree on the investment point but expecting huge spending this month is a bit pointless to me. It's not going to happen. Make the managerial change and then make huge squad changes in the summer.
 

Dublin blue 75 said:
If we are in championship, we are screwed. The math (as the friedkins might say) no longer add up.
Hence they need to act now.
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I agree. Screwed.
If we go down, I fear it could be for a long time. Our present squad would probably finish up in league 1.
We have lost the ability to attack, never mind score goals.
On our present form can you imagine us beating Leeds Sheffield and now even Burnley and Sunderland.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Big investment in a January window is highly unlikely. That needs to wait to a summer window, where we need to go for a full overhaul of the squad.

This month we need a couple of smart signings to give us a boost. A full back and an attacker would be the obvious positions.

But we don't have time to just sit and wait for the summer and fail to act now. We can't overhaul our squad in 3 weeks, but we can get a boost from a new manager. Every game we go by without changing the manager, is another huge mistake by the ownership. I have no concerns whatsoever if we make the change now.
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They need to start that investment now because rebuilding a team as a Premier League team, rather than a Championship one is the priority.
 

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