#27 Years/NSNOW/#AllTogetherNow Fan Campaign

[BNJ1878]

Your posts are always eloquent and succinct and factual @BNJ1878, and forgive my late entry to the discussion, but I think you are doing the equivalent of peeing up a rope with this poster, who appears to have some sort of man-crush on Bill. A non-medically induced scotoma.

I must ask, for I am unsure of the facts, but didn't Moshiri need to spend considerable amounts of money to pay off our debts? Was this in addition to similar sums needed to buy back our own property, which we had sold off to remain solvent, and were leasing back?

Not a particularly good scenario, if that was the case, and should blow out of the water any counter point defending the running of the club prior to Moshiri.

I know he cleared whatever debt we had at the time he bought the first round of shares.

As for buying back whatever was sold off I'm not entirely sure. He may well have bought Finch Farm but I don't remember seeing anything.

Your point remains valid about the previous owner. Sold off and borrowed whatever he could to maintain his grubby grip on his prized toy.

He got lucky with Moyes who was Coach, Manager and DoF for one salary, and was happy to work within a strict budget. I have no problem with a strict budget, provided the money we were recieving (ever growing TV revenue etc) was invested elsewhere. It wasn't, it was mainly swallowed up servicing loans we had to take out to keep the club afloat.

All the while our rivals (and even 'lesser' clubs) were taking advantage of the money flooding into the game to improve themselves which is why we are where we are today, floundering despite spunking off hundreds of millions. The spending has been scattergun and everyone, including Moshiri is to blame for that.

The frustration I have is from the refusal of so many to point the finger at Kenwright for any of it.

I may well be peeing up a rope, but if EVERYONE who is aware of actual facts educates the doubters it makes the work of campaigns such as 27 and whoever else job a whole lot easier.

The one thing the club is really good at is circling the wagons, getting their message out in the media. It's practically North Korean levels of nonsense that makes it into print.

Moshiri may well prove to be a problem, even with an entirely new board, but the message needs to be consistent. This board has proved over the years to be a failure.

Why he (Moshiri) can't see that remains a mystery.

 

[AndyC]

The guys and gals behind the 27 Years Campaign are keen that everyone gets the message that whilst blue smoke flares are okay for outside the ground… please, no smoke flares inside Goodison and definitely no encroachment onto the pitch !!

 

[BNJ1878]

The guys and gals behind the 27 Years Campaign are keen that everyone gets the message that whilst blue smoke flares are okay for outside the ground… please, no smoke flares inside Goodison and definitely no encroachment onto the pitch !!

Have they decided on the next protest, Andy?

I maintain not doing one post-match Saturday is a massive missed opportunity. I did send them a lengthy message on Twitter outlining why and nobody replied. (Not that I expect them to reply to all messages they receive)

 

[Joey66]

"Yet while the chairman is understood to be so depressed by recent criticism that he may well walk away from the club"

What a drama queen, poor old Bill! Bullied from all sides!

'I don't know why I bother, Jenny, I really don't.'

How does she stick him? It must be like living with a needy child.

He once stood on the Boys pen - my arsp.......He would never have survived that experience lol

 

[PKwalnuts]

The guys and gals behind the 27 Years Campaign are keen that everyone gets the message that whilst blue smoke flares are okay for outside the ground… please, no smoke flares inside Goodison and definitely no encroachment onto the pitch !!

Controlled protests are not protests. Next they will be policing not to stand up and they'll want to help get the message out.
The reply should be we won't be supporting that until, the board take some responsibility for their performance.
The aims of these were for Moshiri to meet them, listen and act.
Somehow now they are the ones asking fed up fans to listen and act accordingly.
They can Get lost

 

[JdBlue1966]

I agree with the protest. But that statement is so wide ranging as to be almost meaningless.

Simplify the message: just stick with one major issue - the sale of players and the failure so far to bring in players to what is a relegation quality squad.

It's pretty poor PR from the 27 lot, and it has been since their inception IMO.

Here what you are saying mate. I can assure you that at the moment, we are working on things to make the campaign better.

 

[JdBlue1966]

This notice was issued earlier by the 27 Years Campaign…

PRESS RELEASE from 27 Campaign. Fan protest Goodison Park Saturday 23rd July 12 Noon BST

The 27 Campaign have organised a fan protest on Saturday 23rd July near the Holy Trinity statue, Goodison Park, starting at 12 noon.

The campaign continues to ask Farhad Moshiri to Engage, Listen and Act. It is important to understand why the Campaign focuses on Farhad Moshiri.

As the 94% shareholder he is the person responsible for appointing the Chairman and board of Everton FC.
The 27 Campaign believe that the current leadership of Everton including the Chairman, board and executive, fall well below the requirements of a modern football club, in terms of skills, commercial experience, governance and ambition.

This conclusion is evidenced by the complete mismanagement of footballing operations (only now being addressed through Kevin Thelwell, Frank Lampard and his team), the financial performance of the club (leading to record losses & significant restrictions on current and future transfer activities) and concerns over the future ownership and funding of the club including Bramley-Moore stadium.

More timely, with only two weeks to the start of the season, the club finds itself struggling in the transfer market, having sold its key playing asset in Richarlison and no indications of the squad strengthening desperately needed by the manager and fans.

Recent responses issued by the club on behalf of Farhad Moshiri have failed to allay concerns. They do not represent engagement and show no evidence of him listening to the concerns of many fans.

The protest on Saturday is timed to provide a reminder to Farhad Moshiri of many fan’s concerns. It’s also set for the last available weekend before the start of the new season.

The 27 Campaign does not believe with the scheduled “Match for Peace” friendly versus Dynamo Kyiv next Friday, that it would be appropriate to hold a protest around what is a high profile, highly charged and important football match with a significance far beyond a pre-season friendly.

The Campaign calls on as many Evertonians as possible to demonstrate their concern over the running of the football club under Farhad Moshiri and his board.

We ask that it is a protest that demonstrates the best of all Evertonians, passionate objections to the manner in which the club is led whilst providing full hearted, fanatical support for the manager and our players.

The team will need our support throughout another potentially testing season, the club requires the support of all Evertonians in getting Farhad Moshiri to Engage, Listen and Act.

The Act ultimately is either replacing the board and executive team (including Chairman) or allowing new owners to purchase the club and provide the leadership and direction so desperately needed.

 

[matty1878]

we need change

 

[BenToffee79]

Controlled protests are not protests. Next they will be policing not to stand up and they'll want to help get the message out.
The reply should be we won't be supporting that until, the board take some responsibility for their performance.
The aims of these were for Moshiri to meet them, listen and act.
Somehow now they are the ones asking fed up fans to listen and act accordingly.
They can Get lost

They ? As in the board ,completely agree

 

[BenToffee79]

Even if you love Kenwright and his stories of bs about remortgaging his house or standing in the boys pen you must surely agree that the club is pointing in the wrong direction and those that put this club into reverse aren’t the ones to suddenly develop buisness nous or acumen to get this club into a commercially better state .

 

[davek]

Here what you are saying mate. I can assure you that at the moment, we are working on things to make the campaign better.

Good to hear.

 

[AndyC]

Have they decided on the next protest, Andy?

I maintain not doing one post-match Saturday is a massive missed opportunity. I did send them a lengthy message on Twitter outlining why and nobody replied. (Not that I expect them to reply to all messages they receive)

I'm not sure of any agenda/calendar for more protests, I think the aim is to steadily build on the media attention that the first protest drew and gradually turn the heat up on Moshiri and the Board.

 

[AndyC]

Controlled protests are not protests. Next they will be policing not to stand up and they'll want to help get the message out.
The reply should be we won't be supporting that until, the board take some responsibility for their performance.
The aims of these were for Moshiri to meet them, listen and act.
Somehow now they are the ones asking fed up fans to listen and act accordingly.
They can Get lost

No mate... everybody is asking fans to not transgress by taking flares into the stadium or encroaching onto the pitch... as any transgression could be very costly if the PL/FA decide to impose heavy fines/deduct points/make us play behind closed doors.

So, the brief message from me to anyone thinking of taking flares inside or going onto the pitch is... Act your age, not your shoe size !!

 

[PKwalnuts]

No mate... everybody is asking fans to not transgress by taking flares into the stadium or encroaching onto the pitch... as any transgression could be very costly if the PL/FA decide to impose heavy fines/deduct points/make us play behind closed doors.

So, the brief message from me to anyone thinking of taking flares inside or going onto the pitch is... Act your age, not your shoe size !!

No amount of messaging will stop it here or at other grounds.
For me Andy, old put downs like that is a way of telling others to show respect, or grow up.
I don't care much for anyone telling anyone how they should celebrate a last minute winner or an important result.
I am not a fan of being told what to do normally anyway, so maybe that is a flaw of mine, but this 27 group, this board and anyone that tows the line has got some neck on them when the club generally aren't doing their jobs right and getting a grip of themselves, not looking to scapegoat and attack passionate fans.
That is a piss take.

 

[AndyC]

No amount of messaging will stop it here or at other grounds.
For me Andy, old put downs like that is a way of telling others to show respect, or grow up.
I don't care much for anyone telling anyone how they should celebrate a last minute winner or an important result.
I am not a fan of being told what to do normally anyway, so maybe that is a flaw of mine, but this 27 group, this board and anyone that tows the line has got some neck on them when the club generally aren't doing their jobs right and getting a grip of themselves, not looking to scapegoat and attack passionate fans.
That is a piss take.

So, it's okay to potentially jeopardise the club by you thinking it's okay to go onto the pitch or use a smoke flare inside Goodison.
I suggest you give that a bit of a rethink mate