#27 Years/NSNOW/#AllTogetherNow Fan Campaign

[Toffe3m4n]

I just honestly think they may as well be talking to a brick wall at this point.. ?‍

Kenwright knows damn well what the fans have thought of him for years but clearly he isn't budging and Moshiri isn't going to punt him either. He may decide 'time's up' in the next few years but you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't come before he can look out at that completed stadium at Bramley Moore and proclaim 'there's my legacy!' - he's that much of a narcissist.

For the record I do appreciate that the campaign is at least trying to do something, but the overall messaging & timing from them doesn't ever really seem to hit the mark. Doesn't mean they should stop trying things though like.

 

[AndyC]

@AndyC - I take your failure to respond to my post (while responding to others since) as confirmation you agree that it’s hypocritical to hide behind a pseudonym and then criticise others who do the same on Twitter.

@blueboy1945 - this is the second time I have said something negative about the Esk (not personal) and you have either given the middle finger or reacted angrily. Care to engage in discussion or is it that you are him and just don’t like facts being presented that make you look anything other than the saviour of the fan base you so clearly wanted to be viewed as?

Whilst Esk protects his identity, he is always more than happy and willing to engage in meaningful dialogue and conversation.
He is also perfectly well known to ALL the club hierarchy and as such, no I don’t perceive his handle as being hypocritical.

And name me one instance where he has decried others for using a pseudonym?

I suspect UltraVries might not be your real name ?

 

[UltraVires]

Whilst Esk protects his identity, he is always more than happy and willing to engage in meaningful dialogue and conversation.
He is also perfectly well known to ALL the club hierarchy and as such, no I don’t perceive his handle as being hypocritical.

And name me one instance where he has decried others for using a pseudonym?

I suspect UltraVries might not be your real name ?

I do listen to the podcast and you have all openly criticised people on Twitter for attacking players while hiding behind fake names. The irony is that Esk does the same but to the club on Twitter.

My name obviously isn’t that but I don’t put myself out front and centre on podcasts and have my own website. I know he is your mate but if you can’t see the hypocrisy then no meaningful discussion of his methods will ever get off the ground because of your bias.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Any group that aligns themselves with the delusional Esk are shooting themselves in the foot from the off.
The alleged evidence some are clinging on too only highlights how awful our choice of managers / DoF have been and not the jobs done by Bill and DBB.
The blame lays firmly at Moshiri feet but this group won't go after him while the golden goose is still getting built, this group might have good intentions (will give them benefit of doubt) but they are clueless, which fool thought it was a good idea to protest on a random sat when the team wasn't playing at GP and now they have 'sent' a letter to the owner with a hashtag of FOLD, I bet they high fived each other with that but it's so stupid
Lastly, some might not like Bill but to those wishing death or illness on him, is no blue in my opinion, you just disgust me

 

[UltraVires]

Any group that aligns themselves with the delusional Esk are shooting themselves in the foot from the off.
The alleged evidence some are clinging on too only highlights how awful our choice of managers / DoF have been and not the jobs done by Bill and DBB.
The blame lays firmly at Moshiri feet but this group won't go after him while the golden goose is still getting built, this group might have good intentions (will give them benefit of doubt) but they are clueless, which fool thought it was a good idea to protest on a random sat when the team wasn't playing at GP and now they have 'sent' a letter to the owner with a hashtag of FOLD, I bet they high fived each other with that but it's so stupid
Lastly, some might not like Bill but to those wishing death or illness on him, is no blue in my opinion, you just disgust me

I agree and disagree mate, respectfully of course haha.

I think DBB, BK, the managers and the DoFs have all been poor choices since Moshiri’s ownership and for that reason, I agree that Moshiri is the ultimate culprit.

However, I simply can’t see him going anywhere at the moment given the investment he has sunk in and what he would get in return now. As such, I think it’s better to take aim at the incompetent people that can realistically be removed and hope in the longer term, the stadium gets built and someone offers Moshiri what he wants and we get a progressive and level headed owner to take over.

 

[BullensRoad]

Need a proper group with a clear direction who don't go quiet after a couple of wins but come out like screaming hyenas after a loss. Some good people (were) are in the group but it's ran by a massive egomaniac

Check the URL of their website if you want more evidence.

 

[AndyC]

I do listen to the podcast and you have all openly criticised people on Twitter for attacking players while hiding behind fake names. The irony is that Esk does the same but to the club on Twitter.

My name obviously isn’t that but I don’t put myself out front and centre on podcasts and have my own website. I know he is your mate but if you can’t see the hypocrisy then no meaningful discussion of his methods will ever get off the ground because of your bias.

The club are perfectly well aware who Esk is as are more than a few on GOT.

He has always said that if there is anything he has written or said that is factually incorrect, he will publicly apologise and retract.

To date, none, not one of his financial reviews or assessments of the club’s activities has been challenged by the club.

The supportive evidence in the 27 campaign press release last night is impossible to argue… would you agree with that ?

 

[BullensRoad]

What is this meant to achieve?

They give you info, then what?

I think someone wants to be on the board.

 

[UltraVires]

Check the URL of their website if you want more evidence.

Don’t dare question our saviour as you will be met with middle finger reactions on here, cult like following

 

[Toff33Blues99]

I agree and disagree mate, respectfully of course haha.

I think DBB, BK, the managers and the DoFs have all been poor choices since Moshiri’s ownership and for that reason, I agree that Moshiri is the ultimate culprit.

However, I simply can’t see him going anywhere at the moment given the investment he has sunk in and what he would get in return now. As such, I think it’s better to take aim at the incompetent people that can realistically be removed and hope in the longer term, the stadium gets built and someone offers Moshiri what he wants and we get a progressive and level headed owner to take over.

Problem is, he has nothing to gain in sacking 2 allies at this stage. It is widely believed he goes after the stadium gets built, this campaign is at least 2 years to late

 

[BullensRoad]

Don’t dare question our saviour as you will be met with middle finger reactions on here, cult like following

He legitimately said last time Moshiri should sit down and talk to him.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

What is this meant to achieve?

They give you info, then what?

I think someone wants to be on the board.

Well then you assess that info and decide what comes next.

It's stupid to be calling for a course of action when you're not in possession the facts, no?

 

[AndyC]

Don’t dare question our saviour as you will be met with middle finger reactions on here, cult like following

Grow up man, that’s a pathetic comment imo.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Moshiri has to realise and accept that his ownership of the club has largely been a disaster and him leaving Kenwright and Co in situ was by some considerable margin his biggest mistake.

The Supportive Evidence is impossible to argue and the more Blues that read those facts and add their voices to those of the 27 Campaign, then they might be a chance Moshiri can be convinced to act.

Thing is Andy. They learned, that if they don't reply, don't change the status quo, this campaign has zero power to do anything that could affect them. They will just ignore, and sit it out until the bluster is done. They know well enough that the apathy in the fan base is the majority and the minority willing to act, aren't able or willing enough to do anything that could realistically change it.

Not that I am saying, so what's the point, but I guess the big question is, when this ultimately goes no where and affects nothing. What big plan does this group have to make the owner and charlatans listen and act in the way we all need them to.

If you don't have that, and don't communicate that, be prepared for the eye rolls and sneers.

We nearly went down.
That should have been enough to mobilise the kind of actions to impact changes.

If 3 people can close the M25 why can't our group of upset blues do things that have a meaningful impact, or make a big enough story to cause the upheaval needed that they have to change?

 

[BullensRoad]

The club are perfectly well aware who Esk is as are more than a few on GOT.

He has always said that if there is anything he has written or said that is factually incorrect, he will publicly apologise and retract.

To date, none, not one of his financial reviews or assessments of the club’s activities has been challenged by the club.

The supportive evidence in the 27 campaign press release last night is impossible to argue… would you agree with that ?

Erm, lets start with thesignings he said where sorted, saying he heard differently to elbobble and the laughable stadium sketch.