6 + 2 Point Deductions

[gwladysnight]

But Mutu tested positive for cocaine which I assume was stipulated in his contract that he could not use therefore a breach of his contract. How does that relate Siggurdson - what breach did he do that we could dismiss him without pay?

It was in the report. Once he was suspended by the FA he could no longer fulfil the terms of his contract.

 

[jazzy]

City’s lead lawyer is Lord Pannick…. Really

Mind you, IIRC he’s on £10k per hour or £400k per week

Think I could sit there and call PL lawyers names too for that fee

Guy's a genius. Worth every penny. You want the best you've got to pay.

 

[Victus]

They will soon reduce it to 6 points!

Give them 2 or 3 months!

Honestly you'd have to imagine they will, we can go back and forth until we are blue in the face for how this has come to be, but the simple fact is I don't think anybody can realistically say that 10 points for these crimes are not heavy handed and excessive.

 

[GP_Monty]

Just easier when you block @radiostar @GP_Monty and @gwladysnight

Grow up you scruff.

 

[Yarrgh]

If the appeal gets rejected is this something we can take to CAS as City did a few years back? They would actually be independent.

I think we'd have cause to take it an actual court.

 

[gwladysnight]

Honestly you'd have to imagine they will, we can go back and forth until we are blue in the face for how this has come to be, but the simple fact is I don't think anybody can realistically say that 10 points for these crimes are not heavy handed and excessive.

Hopefully, Sheffield Wednesday originally got 12 points but that was then reduced to 6 on appeal.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

The point that bugs me the most is.

• Everton argue most of their losses are related to the stadium being built, and says that those losses are actually good business and will lead to increased profits in the long run. Commission says these losses should have been covered by investors.

These losses shouldn't even be taken into account. This is the one that we must target in an appeal, infrastructure had never been counted toward P&S there is absolutely no reason for it to be even mentioned in any report.
An anomaly arose which ment that stadium costs had to go into P&S accounts... AN ANOMALY... Jesus, we don't even need a good lawyer to get us out of this one.View attachment 235794

When you look at all the minor accounting quirks and technicalities like this that have added up to us being punishment it is utterly ABSURD that it should lead to such an enormous sporting penalty that penalises first and foremost the fans and pushes a founding member towards a relegation that could destroy it. Absurd, ridiculous, disproportionate nonsense.

 

[gwladysnight]

I think we'd have cause to take it an actual court.

I am sure it would work. Yes your honour we admit we did it but can you let us off.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Is anyone like me at the moment: when I've been out and I see a few people standing round and I hear laughter from them I want to pick up a half brick and throw it at them assuming them to be Kopites?

Or is it just me?

It has been explained to you, David. You have become a parody and people just laugh at you, and point whilst doing so, x

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Please for the love of god someone directly ask the PL and the club/Pinsents LLP on Sky etc how the document has been allowed out like this:

“If you park your lorry in this car park for 10 minutes longer than your ticket, the fine is £90. If however the owner of your company is wealthy (personal wealth - nothing to do with the company), a fine is inappropriate so we will set fire to your truck.”

 

[Efcjake]

The big six didn't break any rules when they attempted to start an European Super League though. They didn't face any punishment they came to a financial settlement to donate £25m to grassroots football as a gesture of goodwill.

They set up their own unsanctioned competition and broke UEFA and therefore FA rules by doing so.

Wonder why you're so desperate to defend those teams?

They absolutely should have been punished but the authorities caved in big time. Funny how at the time the narrative was it couldn't be a points deduction because that would punish fans but you seem alright with this.

 

[Yarrgh]

David Phillips KC: Chair of the ’Independent Panel‘

"in 2007 David acted for Leeds United in the 15 Point controversy. Although the arbitration proceedings remain confidential, David’s involvement is a matter of public record. David represented Leeds at every stage of the matter – from a members’ meeting of the Football League through to the final determination by the arbitration panel”

Nothing to see here.

So a man linked with Leeds was in charge of a commission that was brought about by and for the benefit of Leeds?!?

Throw this judgment out now as unsound!

 

[GP_Monty]

Is anyone like me at the moment: when I've been out and I see a few people standing round and I hear laughter from them I want to pick up a half brick and throw it at them assuming them to be Kopites?

Or is it just me?

Have you killed anyone yet?

 

[gwladysnight]

When you look at all the minor accounting quirks and technicalities like this that have added up to us being punishment it is utterly ABSURD that it should lead to such an enormous sporting penalty that penalises first and foremost the fans and pushes a founding member towards a relegation that could destroy it. Absurd, ridiculous, disproportionate nonsense.

There are no quirks or technicalities. We admitted our guilt during the pre-trial. The only debate is whether we breached P&S rules by around £10m or around £20m. If there was no points deduction there would be no deterrent.

As for being diproprtionate the EFL starting offence for breaching P&S rules is 12 points.

 

[MikeH72]

The big six didn't break any rules when they attempted to start an European Super League though. They didn't face any punishment they came to a financial settlement to donate £25m to grassroots football as a gesture of goodwill.

The fans that tried to climb the gates and break into the Stade de France endangering the safety of fellow supporters broke rules and were punished accordingly and fairly.