Its like cooperating with the police and then being polite in court but then appealing the fact you still got 10 years in jail for doing 35 in a 30 the two things are different. They accepted that they'd breached the regulations and did all the things the premier league asked them to do but then they weren't happy with the punishment they got its dead simple.
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6 + 2 Point Deductions
- Thread starter GrandOldTeam
- Start date
you can stick your points deduction up your .....Eh ....we are keeping them
Bloody Cowards.
sorry but MY OPINION
we should of not withdrew it out of its not right!
are we thinking we’re getting admin? and thats
why? dunno but it’s a a farce we have
we should of not withdrew it out of its not right!
are we thinking we’re getting admin? and thats
why? dunno but it’s a a farce we have
Why didn’t we get points back for cooperating with the process then seeing as we went through exactly the same process? What you’re saying makes no sense and it doesn’t make any sense that they got to keep their 2 points for being nice when they came out with this statement questioning the integrity of the Premier League as soon as their punishment was announced:
‘Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.
Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.
We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.
After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.
That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.
We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.
Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.
Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.
The Commission’s decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.
There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.
Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.
The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.
We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission’s decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.’
I don't know why we didn't but thats a totally different point. That statement was AFTER the deduction I don't get what you aren't understanding. They were cooperating with the process and were given credit for it but they weren't happy with the decision and the things that were said in it so at that point they kicked up a fuss. They even say in the thing you've quoted that they weren't happy specifically BECAUSE they had cooperated but then had it thrown back in their face. Its just a really easy thing to understand I don't have any other way of explaining it because it explains itself.
Rollo Tomassi
Player Valuation: £15m
What the hell are they playing at withdrawing the appeal means we think the punishment was fair and just when we all know the opposite is true.
I mean just because we won 3 games in a week doesn't mean that we weren't shafted and as for this 3rd charge they haven't got a leg to stand on as the accounts have been signed off by an auditor in accordance with UK legislation.
I mean just because we won 3 games in a week doesn't mean that we weren't shafted and as for this 3rd charge they haven't got a leg to stand on as the accounts have been signed off by an auditor in accordance with UK legislation.
Davideeyore
Player Valuation: £30m
I'm sure there's logic behind withdrawing the appeal but it's not just the PL in my opinion that's made a mess of this so have Everton. It's been a farce from the start.
Matelot
Player Valuation: £6m
It’s truly astonishing how many people can’t understand this concept.
The two points was awarded for their initial cooperation, the right to appeal was always still available afterwards.
Hell, you can get sentenced to 25yrs for murder, you still have a right to appeal the ruling.
Lob
Player Valuation: £50m
I agree with their decision to withdraw the appeal tbh. We are already safe and have very little to gain. It was very unlikely that the 2 points would be reduced, very little wiggle room and this gesture will save both Everton and the PL time and money and maybe even go towards repairing some of the ill feeling between both parties. Time to start moving forward so get the sale of the club sorted urgently and lets start planning ahead. We have been in reactive mode for so long we have forgotten what proactive even means.
Blue83
Player Valuation: £25m
It's certainly possible, or maybe a deal to take the 9 points for administration this season providing we drop the appeal on PSR ?
How are they cooperating by publicly slating the league and discrediting the process immediately after the punishment? I’ve yet to hear an actual explanation as to why the 2 points weren’t added back on after the fact, for all @JimmyK chat about how simple it is to understand he’s really doing a poor job of making it make sense.
I'm glad the appeal has been withdrawn. I was worried that we'd end up with more, not less.
