6 + 2 Point Deductions

[b-rad]

Compared to our great competent ownership. I guess perhaps the new owners did their due diligence and would not have completed the deal if they thought we would fail

Or...they knew we'd fail, and negotiated a deal on that basis. Which is why they're not ok keeping Dyche for the rest of his contract too.

 

[Saint Domingo]

When is the City ruling expected? Our relegation worries might disappear overnight from off the pitch rulings if City get a massive points deduction and Leicester get pretty much anything.

 

[Iana]

Don't think they'll get 10, certainly not after appeal, but like you say after using loopholes to escape 2 previous years 6-8 is likely. Any mitigation shouldn't really be considered.

I think the PL would be wise to use the appeal judgement on Everton’s first breach which did sort of try to create a framework for future transgressions. It was also referenced in the Forest case.
3 points deduction for the breach and then up to 3 points for the size of the breach.
The maximum it can be is 8 points as the appeal panel did point out that a sanction can’t be higher than the 9 points deducted for going into administration.

 

[Miked1e]

When is the City ruling expected? Our relegation worries might disappear overnight from off the pitch rulings if City get a massive points deduction and Leicester get pretty much anything.

I feel much of our hopes are pinned on this......

 

[catcherintherye]

Don't think they'll get 10, certainly not after appeal, but like you say after using loopholes to escape 2 previous years 6-8 is likely. Any mitigation shouldn't really be considered.

I mean it depends on size of breach.

But we got 6, and they have actively not been helping the league at all. And the league may well factor in previous wrongdoing too that hasn't been punished.

That will be both pish the penalty higher beyond 10.

 

[catcherintherye]

When is the City ruling expected? Our relegation worries might disappear overnight from off the pitch rulings if City get a massive points deduction and Leicester get pretty much anything.

Bingo.

 

[catcherintherye]

I think the PL would be wise to use the appeal judgement on Everton’s first breach which did sort of try to create a framework for future transgressions. It was also referenced in the Forest case.
3 points deduction for the breach and then up to 3 points for the size of the breach.
The maximum it can be is 8 points as the appeal panel did point out that a sanction can’t be higher than the 9 points deducted for going into administration.

They seemed to throw out this case though for Forests case.

But yes, they will be at say 9. They may add more on for the previous offence.

 

[catcherintherye]

The PL must apply a points deduction immediately if they are in breach as they did with us and Forest. This is a clear precedent that was established 3 times last season.
Also, I am hoping that TFG are more aggressive in pushing the Everton agenda with the PL and threatening legal action for inconsistent application of its own rules.

Yes it will be applied. Which actually is wrong really, but that's one of many ridiculous precadents they have set.

 

[Iana]

They seemed to throw out this case though for Forests case.

But yes, they will be at say 9. They may add more on for the previous offence.

I don’t think they did.

Forest got 6 points based on the Everton precedent and then 2 points off for “co-operation” leaving a 4 point deduction.

 

[Neiler]

Not saying anything until i know its not us.

 

[MikeH72]

I’m not going to be a hypocrite and start hoping and praying for other teams to get points deductions in order to save us. We shouldn’t even be competing against the likes of Leicester, we are where we are because our manager has placed us here. Sort our own house out and stop hoping the league that we were all holding pink cards up in protest against this time last year, give us a leg up and remove earned points from our rivals.

 

[mikel_88]

I’m not going to be a hypocrite and start hoping and praying for other teams to get points deductions in order to save us. We shouldn’t even be competing against the likes of Leicester, we are where we are because our manager has placed us here. Sort our own house out and stop hoping the league that we were all holding pink cards up in protest against this time last year, give us a leg up and remove earned points from our rivals.

Agree mine is more that i want it to be treated fair same goes to chelsea and city. 100% is on this team and manager is a disgrace that we are even looking at psr to get us safe

 

[Jacko93]

They seemed to throw out this case though for Forests case.

But yes, they will be at say 9. They may add more on for the previous offence.

Can they add on anything for any previous offence, given that offence has not been through the system, and therefore not proven/unproven?

 

[arch stanton]

Can they add on anything for any previous offence, given that offence has not been through the system, and therefore not proven/unproven?

they could try but it would be challenged

 

[mikel_88]

Can they add on anything for any previous offence, given that offence has not been through the system, and therefore not proven/unproven?

No passed that one because the league left a way out for them like chelsea and the hotels. Could be used to show they havent been working with the league like the good behaviour rule. Could be anything did sell the manager and kdh to chelsea, but no idea what the mess for psr in