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6 + 2 Point Deductions

Bebeto said:
They have to sell...no choice really to stay within ffp/psr limit. Their revenue this year should on paper continue to decrease substantially as no europe...they're going to be very quickly in a situation where there is nothing left to sell (home grown) other than the over hype crap they ended up buying for which they will be lucky to get half of the money paid.
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Gallagher and Broja would provided the biggest boost to the P&L at the moment, hence why they are getting playing time.
 
blueblood said:
Yeah- I'm pretty pessimistic about most things to do with Everton at the moment, but the Esk makes me feel like the biggest optimist going- so if he says we're OK, I find that quite reassuring!!
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I think he gets a bad rep because people expect him to tell us everything and for it to all be 100% accurate. He’s defo got inside knowledge but also people expect loads off him. As far as I am concerned he’s never been wrong with his info.
 

pfim said:
Gallagher and Broja would provided the biggest boost to the P&L at the moment, hence why they are getting playing time.
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Yes...if you have buyers...plenty of buyers for Gallagher, but probably not at what chelsea would want/need for him. Broja is still early days...there isn't a lot of money around, even more so with so much scrutiny on psr.
 
matty1878 said:
it’s not the WWE ffs

it’s footy and anyone who would rather be in the championship it’s a bad goon
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Wake up Matthew its scripted to keep the elite at the top !

You and many others are blinded by the flashing lights and the glitz and the glam of MNF and Soccer Saturday. The truth is we're just one of 14 patsies kept around to be given the stunner by Austin 3:16 who draws in all the money.
 
Bez2k2k said:
I think he gets a bad rep because people expect him to tell us everything and for it to all be 100% accurate. He’s defo got inside knowledge but also people expect loads off him. As far as I am concerned he’s never been wrong with his info.
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I agree. He knows his stuff. There's no question.

The PL when cornered can literally concoct anything though, as we saw once before, so I doubt it's a case of no room for a charge. It'd appear they've decided they've humiliated Everton enough.

I wouldn't bank on points back from them though. Virtually no chance of that. What does the Esk think about that, I wonder?
 
blue to the bone said:

Nottingham Forest appoint top lawyer to fight Premier League spending breach risk​

Exclusive: Sale of Brennan Johnson to Spurs may prove crucial in Forest avoiding charge similar to Everton who received 10-point deduction

John Percy2 January 2024 • 5:44pm


Nottingham Forest have enlisted leading sports lawyer Nick De Marco as they attempt to avoid any Premier League charge for breaching financial regulations.

Forest will discover later this month if they are to become the third top-flight club charged with breaking the Profitability and Sustainability Rules [PSR], following Everton’s 10-point deduction last year and Manchester City’s alleged breach.

After signing 43 players since winning the Championship play-off final in May 2022, Forest are sailing close to the wind though sources insist they are confident of avoiding sanctions.

De Marco, a KC with Blackstone Chambers, has been appointed to argue their case and has established an impressive record dealing with football, and especially Financial Fair Play.

Clubs are permitted to make financial losses of £105 million over a three-year period, with Forest reporting an annual loss of £45.6 million in their last accounts.

In the previous year, ending June 2021, they recorded a loss of £34.4 million, reduced to a loss before tax of £15.5 million.
Evangelos Marinakis, the owner, has invested more than £250 million on transfer fees in a bid to make Forest an emerging force in English football. Their wage bill will also be significant.

Last month the Greek billionaire made a further financial commitment to the club with the conversion of £11 million worth of loans into shares for the financial year 2022-23.

Forest submitted their accounts ending June 30, 2023, last week with the crux of their argument is understood to centre around the sale of Brennan Johnson to Tottenham.

Johnson was sold for £47.5 million on deadline day – a record sale for the club – and Forest will insist that they would have received a far lower fee if they had accepted an offer earlier in the summer.

Brentford failed with two offers of £30 million and £35 million for the Wales international in June and July respectively.


De Marco will put forward Forest’s defence as they aim to avoid becoming the latest club to be charged with breaking PSR.
Everton were handed the biggest punishment in Premier League history by an independent commission in December.
They have appealed against the decision to dock them 10 points, which will be heard and concluded before the end of the season.
Telegraph Sport understands that at least two other Premier League clubs are also in potential trouble under the new rules.
Manchester City were charged in February with more than 100 alleged breaches and that case remains ongoing.
New Premier League rules added to the handbook at the AGM last year mean that clubs now submit their accounts earlier in the season, on December 31 rather than March 31.

It was introduced so that any PSR breaches could be dealt with, charged and punished within the scope of the same season. All clubs submitted their PSR compliances last week and the Premier League is now considering those.
When contacted by Telegraph Sport, a Nottingham Forest spokesperson said: “The club has fully complied with its reporting obligations in respect of the Premier League’s revised profit and sustainability rules.
“Promotion to the Premier League will always create challenges, and the treatment of promotion bonuses is just one such example.
“The club approaches all such challenges with its long-term financial sustainability firmly in mind, as the Premier League rules intended.”
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The defence about Johnson was pretty much rejected when we argued something similar about Richarlison.

If they are in a position that they have to argue that then they are in trouble, it might be a mitigation but I don’t think it will help them talk their way out of a breach.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
Wake up Matthew its scripted to keep the elite at the top !

You and many others are blinded by the flashing lights and the glitz and the glam of MNF and Soccer Saturday. The truth is we're just one of 14 patsies kept around to be given the stunner by Austin 3:16 who draws in all the money.
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i know it’s for the elite

but i’m sure every other club outside it

wouldn’t want to drop in the championship IMO
 
Tony’s Carp said:
The defence about Johnson was pretty much rejected when we argued something similar about Richarlison.

If they are in a position that they have to argue that then they are in trouble, it might be a mitigation but I don’t think it will help them talk their way out of a breach.
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We sold Richarlison to get the money in the accounts for the 21/22 financial year. Forrest are going to struggle to make a strong argument that someone who was sold in August could have been sold in June but for less money!
 
NathDogg said:
That’s why the p&s rules need binning - it’s all a scam.
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Unfortunately the other 14 clubs and their respective fanbases have been PL bootlickers for that long any hope of restoring the integrity of the competition are long gone.

We all need to follow the rules that are inherently unfair, uncompetitive and designed to keep 6 teams (one of them being our most hated rival) at the top of the pile.

The only small hope is that Man City get hit hard at some stage by the RS infiltrated PL and as a result go all out in court with their army of lawyers and destroy FFP for the uncompetitive system that it is.
 

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