Ring master
Player Valuation: £90m
Probably be about 20mins before, like the last one. We all know tomorrow, so when is leaked then, it will be official shortly after
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
In my view, the EFL application of PSR rules seems to be used as precedent in the absence of any real precedent within the Premier League. The first IC were referencing Sheffield Wednesday etc.
People are saying that the EFL have things in place to prevent ‘double jeopardy’, so it would be good if similar rules were applied to us this time around.
However, we aren’t just experiencing double jeopardy, we are potentially experiencing double jeopardy within the same season! Which would be ridiculously punitive, and something that the PL should try to avoid if they have any sense.
I’m hoping for a 2 point deduction, which would make the leniency shown for Forest’s breach a lot fairer to Everton. It would make the typical punishment for a breach to be 4 points, with Everton being given two in one season.
If they want to present themselves as being equal handed, it should be a 2 point deduction!
People are saying that the EFL have things in place to prevent ‘double jeopardy’, so it would be good if similar rules were applied to us this time around.
However, we aren’t just experiencing double jeopardy, we are potentially experiencing double jeopardy within the same season! Which would be ridiculously punitive, and something that the PL should try to avoid if they have any sense.
I’m hoping for a 2 point deduction, which would make the leniency shown for Forest’s breach a lot fairer to Everton. It would make the typical punishment for a breach to be 4 points, with Everton being given two in one season.
If they want to present themselves as being equal handed, it should be a 2 point deduction!
So even though tomorrow we should know the IC decision . . .
we still won't know where we stand until we hear the outcome of Forests (and probably our) appeal.
*Prays for @matty1878
we still won't know where we stand until we hear the outcome of Forests (and probably our) appeal.
*Prays for @matty1878
Rollo Tomassi
Player Valuation: £15m
No, if they want to be fair then it should be no deduction. You quote Forest and hope for a 2 point deduction that would mean we have 8 points and they have 4 but their 4 was based on a 35M loss and our 6 was for 19.5M for god's sake.
It just goes to show how scandalous the original 10 points was and when you think Masters wanted 12 for a breach of less than 20M it is disgraceful.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
I don’t disagree, but the rest of the Premier League wouldn’t consider it fair if Everton received no points deduction for a second breach.
I think two points is the best we can hope for, and it would get the PL out of any allegations of failing to apply points deductions fairly across clubs found guilty of PSR beaches.
It would also kind of set a precedent of 4 points for deductions, something that will be far more palatable to numerous clubs that may potentially be found guilty in the future.
My understanding is that despite the forthcoming rule changes, there will be yet another round of punishments during next season, as they will still be enforcing the rules applicable to this season.
If the PL has any sense, they will want to bring a bit of order to their hitherto disorderly proceedings, and reduce the amount of flack that they receive whenever they issue punishments. A standard 4 point deduction would come close to achieving that imo.
I see the “just got a feeling bro” bros are still very much out in force.
Rollo Tomassi
Player Valuation: £15m
I couldn't care less what the rest of the premier league thinks is fair and I sure as hell know the original decision was grossly unfair and unjust.
Even ignoring the double jeopardy element the vigour and hastiness they have displayed in going after us twice in just over a year is outrageous when compared to other clubs including one who has admitted breaking the rules 18 months ago.
We were charged in March last year and they wanted to bring it forward before the end of the season. They then had the temerity to change the rules after we were charged and before the hearing in October. How can you seriously suggest further points deducted would get them "out of any allegations of failing to apply points deductions fairly across clubs ", when it is abundantly clear they have treated us differently and singled us out. Where is the fairness there?
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
I don’t disagree with your arguments about fairness, and there has clearly been disparity in the application of punitive sanctions, which I think need to be corrected by the PL.
But the prospect of a zero points deduction sounds fanciful imo, unless our second breach is relatively minor and the PL suddenly become understanding and sympathetic to our plight, which hasn’t been the case thus far.
I’m all for zero point deductions, I just don’t think they are likely.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £20m
Brace yourself Rodney.
If our breach is under the 20m we breached last time, thats the only way I see them giving us 0 points.
