777 Partners / Whatever the hell you like

[mahermi1]

if only these pl takeover suitability rules where in action when kenwright decided to buy us

Kenwright would have well passed it, he's a snake oil salesman, Bill could slither under a door with a top hat on.

 

[Furey1878]

Ahh here

777 Partners – Moshiri’s final misjudgement?

It should be no surprise that seemingly Moshiri’s last act as owner of Everton Football Club, should be yet another significant misjudgement. A man who in seven and a half years has brought a proud…

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Tbf, all he says here about 777 is that he doesn't think they're the right people without ever really backing up why he thinks that. I'm sure the guy has his reasons, but he penned about 2000+ words there just saying all the problems the club has that we already know and nothing compelling about why we shouldn't sell to 777.

 

[mahermi1]

Pinched off the People's Forum, but I don't think they will mind as they would want t see this as possible. Dave Kelly head of FAB met with a 777 representative, Dransfied a few weeks ago, doesn't tell you much. But good people is Dave, former Blue Union spokesperson.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Kenwright would have well passed it, he's a snake oil salesman, Bill could slither under a door with a top hat on.

Aside from that Brazilian bloke who blagged a career without ever actually getting on the pitch, I have always said Kenwright is one of the biggest conmen in football when you look at everything he has done.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I don't agree that there is enough evidence to know if they will be good or not. The only complacency I see is the strong opposition to this when the alternative appears to be Moshiri remaining in control at a time when he either can't or won't provide funds.

When you buy struggling clubs, you can only judge them after a few seasons, and they haven't been at any of these clubs long enough. There are no ideal scenarios out there right now. The least bad scenario for me is getting a takeover as soon as is practically possible, and then moving forward. If the next owner is only here for the short term with a view to a sale, then I don't necessarily see this as a negative. They won't improve the value of their asset by moving the club backwards.

They are coming here to make money out of us and the other clubs under their control, they have publicly stated their vision of ownership , hyper commercialism and monetising the supporters ( who are eager for it ! apparently)
You are choosing to ignore their extensive history before football ownership, ( three passenger planes repossessed on the runway , as one example )
Their football ownership while relatively new has already provoked vociferous protests by supporters dissatisfied with their performance and they have incurred a FIFA transfer ban caused by their habitual habit of failing to pay money owed .
They are also conning Genoa fans into paying for their own training ground because they do not themselves invest in the clubs they own.
They don’t have to improve us at all to profit out of us . They will have the tv , sponshorship and ticket monies to line their pockets without doing a thing to improve us, all added to their plans to ‘monetise us’.
They have not stated anywhere that they plan to sell us on , nor have they for any other of their clubs. I am curious why people float this idea with no evidence to support it ?

 

[Sussex]

What role do the FCA actually do with the Premier league?

What does this fit and proper persons test actually involve?

Heard a lot about yes they will pass because of newcastle. Heard a lot because they don't pay bills and/or ontime so won't get pass the FCA?

What do the FCA actually do in this fit and proper test?

 

[maccavennie]

Pinched off the People's Forum, but I don't think they will mind as they would want t see this as possible. Dave Kelly head of FAB met with a 777 representative, Dransfied a few weeks ago, doesn't tell you much. But good people is Dave, former Blue Union spokesperson.

This is what I was discussing last week about getting answers.....777 won't be allowed to discuss anything Everton related until the takeover is complete and they won't be divulging any sensitive information until it has been completed.

No one is getting an inside scoop on what their plans are, how they're funding the takeover, money involved etc until it's all completed.

Great that Dransfield has had generic conversations with fan groups, but nothing has been said that isn't already out in the public domain and I'd imagine that's exactly how it will stay until the takeover is complete (or rejected)

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Pinched off the People's Forum, but I don't think they will mind as they would want t see this as possible. Dave Kelly head of FAB met with a 777 representative, Dransfied a few weeks ago, doesn't tell you much. But good people is Dave, former Blue Union spokesperson.

Fluff

 

[ToffeeTim]

They are coming here to make money out of us and the other clubs under their control, they have publicly stated their vision of ownership , hyper commercialism and monetising the supporters ( who are eager for it ! apparently)
You are choosing to ignore their extensive history before football ownership, ( three passenger planes repossessed on the runway , as one example )
Their football ownership while relatively new has already provoked vociferous protests by supporters dissatisfied with their performance and they have incurred a FIFA transfer ban caused by their habitual habit of failing to pay money owed .
They are also conning Genoa fans into paying for their own training ground because they do not themselves invest in the clubs they own.
They don’t have to improve us at all to profit out of us . They will have the tv , sponshorship and ticket monies to line their pockets without doing a thing to improve us, all added to their plans to ‘monetise us’.
They have not stated anywhere that they plan to sell us on , nor have they for any other of their clubs. I am curious why people float this idea with no evidence to support it ?

They won't be able to "monetise" our fanbase in the way you've mentioned. And the simple reason for that is that it won't work, and they will surely know that already. Just because they made a stupid comment about insurance doesn't mean it will ever happen, and especially not in English football. The commercial side of US sports is entirely different to English football.

I have never said that they will definitely look to sell us on but it's clearly possible. Football clubs change ownership over time. And they won't be able to profit without improving the club's off field and on field performance, or by at least steadying us. Any new owner will have to take on responsibility to finish the stadium and that means funding or at least managing the debt relating to the stadium.

I don't know the Genoa story but I doubt anyone was forced to pay for a training ground.

There is far too much we still need to know before we can have firm opinions on this. We haven't even heard their plans for the club - not that words matter in particular - actions matter far more. If they takeover, they will be judged on actions and that's only right.

I go back to the same point again though which is what is the alternative. If this is blocked then we end up stuck with the current situation without even getting to find out how the alternative would have gone. There should have been this sort of opposition to Moshiri's leadership over the past several seasons, not to a potential sale by Moshiri. A sale of the club is exactly what we need.

 

[mccole]

Pinched off the People's Forum, but I don't think they will mind as they would want t see this as possible. Dave Kelly head of FAB met with a 777 representative, Dransfied a few weeks ago, doesn't tell you much. But good people is Dave, former Blue Union spokesperson.

Saw this last night.

I think Dave is truly tremendous and I also think in 777, CEO Don Dransfield is a very clever and smart asset something I wish Moshiri did when he bought us years ago.

I think the multi club model is interesting however I am glad we will be the big fish in their pond but I fear for the other clubs who don't have access to the money we receive but that could change if we are relegated.

I worry about the money aspects and what will be the debt layed onto the club plus where it comes from. Also no word on Chairman Bill which again worries me.

Ideally, we are sold to a group/owner who will appoint the best people to gain the most for Everton in every level - boardroom to pitch. But politics aside, we would require a Saudi/Dubai/Qatari level to really achieve this.

I hope there is a group out there to save us from Moshiri, Bill and vultures like 777

 

[blueblueskies]

Tbf, all he says here about 777 is that he doesn't think they're the right people without ever really backing up why he thinks that. I'm sure the guy has his reasons, but he penned about 2000+ words there just saying all the problems the club has that we already know and nothing compelling about why we shouldn't sell to 777.

Agree with this completely.

I am sure the Esk knows his stuff financially but I have always thought he loves the attention and this is reflected in pieces like this

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

They won't be able to "monetise" our fanbase in the way you've mentioned. And the simple reason for that is that it won't work, and they will surely know that already. Just because they made a stupid comment about insurance doesn't mean it will ever happen, and especially not in English football. The commercial side of US sports is entirely different to English football.

I have never said that they will definitely look to sell us on but it's clearly possible. Football clubs change ownership over time. And they won't be able to profit without improving the club's off field and on field performance, or by at least steadying us. Any new owner will have to take on responsibility to finish the stadium and that means funding or at least managing the debt relating to the stadium.

I don't know the Genoa story but I doubt anyone was forced to pay for a training ground.

There is far too much we still need to know before we can have firm opinions on this. We haven't even heard their plans for the club - not that words matter in particular - actions matter far more. If they takeover, they will be judged on actions and that's only right.

I go back to the same point again though which is what is the alternative. If this is blocked then we end up stuck with the current situation without even getting to find out how the alternative would have gone. There should have been this sort of opposition to Moshiri's leadership over the past several seasons, not to a potential sale by Moshiri. A sale of the club is exactly what we need.

I judge them on their extensive history of past and present business dealings , and on that they are an untrustworthy group I wouldn’t touch with a barge pole.
I am surprised you haven’t even made your self aware of the Genoa issue , but I didn’t say people were forced to do anything , rather they are being conned. Confidence tricksters don’t force you to do anything , they convince you to act in their interests believing they are your interests also.
Ultimately, I think they are vultures who will pick our bones clean , and there has been no evidence to the contrary throughout this debate.
You are basing your acquiescence of their bid on blind faith as far as I can tell, by refusing to examine their record or question their motives.
I still suspect they will not pass the fit and proper persons test , surely any group who continually fail to pay their bills cannot be allowed to own a PL club, especially under the toughened tests ?
We will see I suppose.

 

[matty1878]

They won't be able to "monetise" our fanbase in the way you've mentioned. And the simple reason for that is that it won't work, and they will surely know that already. Just because they made a stupid comment about insurance doesn't mean it will ever happen, and especially not in English football. The commercial side of US sports is entirely different to English football.

I have never said that they will definitely look to sell us on but it's clearly possible. Football clubs change ownership over time. And they won't be able to profit without improving the club's off field and on field performance, or by at least steadying us. Any new owner will have to take on responsibility to finish the stadium and that means funding or at least managing the debt relating to the stadium.

I don't know the Genoa story but I doubt anyone was forced to pay for a training ground.

There is far too much we still need to know before we can have firm opinions on this. We haven't even heard their plans for the club - not that words matter in particular - actions matter far more. If they takeover, they will be judged on actions and that's only right.

I go back to the same point again though which is what is the alternative. If this is blocked then we end up stuck with the current situation without even getting to find out how the alternative would have gone. There should have been this sort of opposition to Moshiri's leadership over the past several seasons, not to a potential sale by Moshiri. A sale of the club is exactly what we need.

when these have took us over you will be wounded

like the lot of us

 

[Dublin blue 75]

Their lack of any form of comment on Chairman Bill, his silence on their planned takeover and RMF not having a problem with them are red flags to me that Kenright's position has already been discussed and his extended tenure confirmed.

 

[matty1878]

I know nothing mate. My opinion is there's a lot of red flags and a lot of Hoops they'll need to jump through before it gets passed.

If it doesn't get passed....who knows where that leaves us because I don't think there'll be many suitors for a club in a lot of debt, a half built stadium with no funding and a squad that'll need filling out next summer.

we’re a prem club mate someone would buy us some we’re lol