777 Partners / Whatever the hell you like

[ForeverBlue92]

When did we ever do that? Given that bar a few, the signings we wasted millions on were more microwave ready meal ‘meat’ than fillet steak

Like Moshiri - 777 wont be signing players so the quality of additions is ultimately irrelevant to the point at hand ie. The level of investment being provided.

You'll never see us spend £50m on a Brazilian international good enough to be playing for a top 4 team whilst these cowboys own us.

You'll be lucky if they put in enough money for a loan signing !

 

[Goat]

Like Moshiri - 777 wont be signing players so the quality of additions is ultimately irrelevant to the point at hand ie. The level of investment being provided.

You'll never see us spend £50m on a Brazilian international forward who's playing for a top 4 team whilst these cowboys own us.

You'll be lucky if they put in enough money for a loan signing !

I cant imagine any of the top 4 would sell a Brazilian international forward for 50m.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Are 777 in any way owners or partial owners or wrapped up in any way with any side known officially or unofficially as 'the jets'?

 

[BlueStevie35]

Like Moshiri - 777 wont be signing players so the quality of additions is ultimately irrelevant to the point at hand ie. The level of investment being provided.

You'll never see us spend £50m on a Brazilian international good enough to be playing for a top 4 team whilst these cowboys own us.

You'll be lucky if they put in enough money for a loan signing !

Richarlison wasn’t a Brazilian international when we signed him and pretty much everyone saw it as a massive gamble paying a club record fee for a player who hadn’t scored for half a season

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Richarlison wasn’t a Brazilian international when we signed him and pretty much everyone saw it as a massive gamble paying a club record fee for a player who hadn’t scored for half a season

Was still nice to be able to sign him tho wasn't it ? Like Villa can drop £35-40m+ on a Diaby, or Newcastle £50m+ on Isak.

Good luck to that under these shysters !

 

[Cake]

It's a fact of British/English life that nobody cares about age or history. If we had been having this same struggle 40, 50 years ago people outside our club would have wondered what was going on instead of almost taking pleasure in what has fast become an uncontrollable demise. Moshiri hit the nail on the head when he said the days have gone of a PL club being a success under a single benefactor or even a small group of benefactors. Even Jim Ratcliffe, who is wealthier than Moshiri as an individual, would be of no use to us (and he'll be no use to Man Utd, either, if he gets his feet in the door over there). There is no helping an old lady or gent across the road any more. There isn't even the respectful doffing of caps as we slowly pass into obscurity - we shouldn't expect it, it no longer exists. If we take the drop we'll be forgotten and not talked about before the new season starts except for on our own messageboards.

Of course we need to fight. It might feel like our fans are the only ones who care about what happens to Everton but I'm sure the players and manager care as professionals and a couple of those even care about Everton Football Club and its fans and also the people who work for the club and depend on it for a living. We somehow need to win 8 and draw 8 of our remaining 31 games to stay in the PL, 36 points will do it this season. Then stay in the PL next season, too, so that 777 or whichever set of vultures has their claws in us in 18-24 months time can sell us as an ongoing PL football concern, in addition to the possibilities that magnificent new stadium will bring. That's if they haven't separated the football team from the stadium and sold the stadium (but West Ham aren't doing too bad as a football club in renting where they play their football?). We are Everton though, aren't we, and we have a 'history' of not wanting our pants pulled down by a landlord.

Whatever happens, change is never comfortable. Survival as a football club is paramount over everything, including 'owning' the stadium and having it named after another business or group of individuals instead of the ground it stands on. The days of 'under the lights at GP', 'GP is rocking', teams being 'terrified to come to GP' have long gone (and are great memories but that's all they are). If we have to rent, we rent. Homelessness isn't an option - well it is but not one in which the football club can survive. The vultures are circling and we are that struggling animal they are watching before they come and take their pick when there is no fight left. But sometimes you also need to accept when your current race has been run and see what is around that might help so you can live to fight another day. What are the choices?

Man Utd and Chelsea are in exactly the same position today that we were in not so long ago and they are heading towards being the next Everton with the way they are running their clubs. Both regularly change managers. Both need a new stadium. Both just buy players without any real plan. Liverpool are also headed the same way but for different reasons, for now (they haven't had the manager turnover (yet), a 'minority' £164m 'working capital' cash injection (loan) from one of Fenway's 'associates' , which in reality is to bring their accounts within FFP and help with costs associated with the latest add-on at the Lego Stadium because they can't raise cash from assets (another club who need a new stadium) - putting extra tourists' bums on seats isn't going to help them, the meme is fading.

Anyway, TLDR? Never mind, it's only Bournemouth on Saturday.

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

We can’t really blame the financial mismanagement and bonkers recruiting on the fans though?

Expectations have been too high but I think, ultimately, it is the job of the owner and the board to manage expectations, have a plan to improve the club and stick to it. They didn’t.

Lampard has identified the problem here:

No doubt he'll be criticised, but he's likely right I'd say

If he is right in identifying the fan base as part of the problem - then one of the key actions to help the club improve would be to improve the fan culture - as I've said for some time...

 

[matty1878]

more and more dodgy info

@ToffeeTim

 

[matty1878]

1. buy everton for a discount
2. take a loan for hundreds of millions
3. create shell company or multiple shell companies
4. use TV money to pay everyone associated w/ 777 insane salaries for "administration".
5. best case, club treads water enough to be sold for break even/profit (unlikely, only potential buyers are oil shieks who look like they've had their fun and Chinese investors who aren't flush w/ cash as of recent)
6. probable case, club goes bankrupt - its OK tho, banks seize Everton, and we've already made our 10s of millions in salaries.

they are corporate raiders

So they haven't got the cash for British Basketball or a Brazilian Football club BUT they'll still pass the correct measures to become owners of a Premier League team?

It's a disaster waiting to happen

they will end us.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Was still nice to be able to sign him tho wasn't it ? Like Villa can drop £35-40m+ on a Diaby, or Newcastle £50m+ on Isak.

Good luck to that under these shysters !

It worked out, luckily but his fee, like Sigurdsson, like Bolasie, like Keane, like Klaasen, like Tosun, like Walcott, like Schneiderlin, like Gomes and so forth are the reason we’re in the deep and only 777 want to buy us outright

 

[BlueStevie35]

they will end us.

They won’t, literally none of the teams they own or have stakes in are ‘dead’ or dying so why suddenly are they going to end us?

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Lampard has identified the problem here:

No doubt he'll be criticised, but he's likely right I'd say

If he is right in identifying the fan base as part of the problem - then one of the key actions to help the club improve would be to improve the fan culture - as I've said for some time...

I said toward the end of the Brentford game where they had been properly outplayed by an out of form Everton that it was REALLY noticeable there were no groans, no boos, no red faced screaming at an underperforming fullback coming from their home fans. They even still clapped odd attempted through ball. Goodison would have been an X rated fireball if that was us.

Not saying I like their atmosphere. The toxicity at Goodison is just the other side of the coin to the feral beautiful eruption when we score. Probably can’t have one without the other. Brentford (or any current PL team) haven’t been beaten down with years of mediocrity and worse, and maybe the toxicity will build if they start flirting with relegation. But it is a fact that their players and manager will start the next home game with less apprehension and more freedom than Everton players and manager do the game following a thumping at home. (“Highly paid professionals should be able to withstand pressure etc etc”….still humans, and we haven’t got a squad of CL finalists that thrive on the big moments).

It’s not the crowds fault. We have been served up decades of effortless turd. And so the cycle of crap performances, hard atmosphere, sacked manager, brief respite, crap performances, hard atmosphere, sacked manager continues.

 

[Quadvod]

I said toward the end of the Brentford game where they had been properly outplayed by an out of form Everton that it was REALLY noticeable there were no groans, no boos, no red faced screaming at an underperforming fullback coming from their home fans. They even still clapped odd attempted through ball. Goodison would have been an X rated fireball if that was us.

Not saying I like their atmosphere. The toxicity at Goodison is just the other side of the coin to the feral beautiful eruption when we score. Probably can’t have one without the other. Brentford (or any current PL team) haven’t been beaten down with years of mediocrity and worse, and maybe the toxicity will build if they start flirting with relegation. But it is a fact that their players and manager will start the next home game with less apprehension and more freedom than Everton players and manager do the game following a thumping at home. (“Highly paid professionals should be able to withstand pressure etc etc”….still humans, and we haven’t got a squad of CL finalists that thrive on the big moments).

It’s not the crowds fault. We have been served up decades of effortless turd. And so the cycle of crap performances, hard atmosphere, sacked manager, brief respite, crap performances, hard atmosphere, sacked manager continues.

If we start checking ourselves for being an emotional fan base it’ll lead us down a worse path - that of apathy - and if that takes hold then we really are done for.

 

[BNJ1878]

The link to the FCA describes the procedure which companies in the areas covered by the FCA, insurance for example, need to employ to ensure that any potential new staff are fit and proper persons. As company HR departments can't search social media data there exist specialist firms which carry out the process to produce the necessary findings.

For a company seeking to start trading in these areas the certification period by the FCA is between six months and a year.

FCA will, I am sure, not rely on information solely from 777 Partners...

The problem is 777 already have accreditation to from the FCA through there work in basketball (it doesn't matter how badly that's going.)

They're accredited. The FCA isn't stopping this.

The PL? Unlikely. They'd rather roll the dice with 777 than see one of the founder members of the "Greatest league in the world" go into administration.

It's a mess, but I can't really see any other option that's readily available.

The MSP partial investment would have been a life ring to stay afloat, possibly leading to a takeover. That was kyboshed by Kenwrights mates.

777 are currently the only show in town and the clock is ticking.

 

[BNJ1878]

If we start checking ourselves for being an emotional fan base it’ll lead us down a worse path - that of apathy - and if that takes hold then we really are done for.

If?

We've been the most apathetic fanbase going for over 20 years.

The club is an absolute shambles and when people have been calling for protest it's shouted down as 'Kopite Behaviour.'

Kenwrights lies over multiple subjects prompted the blue union to release a transcript of a meeting with Kenwright which should have woken loads up. What happened? His grotesque smug grin is shown on the screen and half the ground stand up and applaud him.

The 27 years group/NSNOW organise protests and what, 2/3k march? Less than 10% of the home support. Two or three times the amount of protesters stood by with a bag of chips, a pint or a mobile phone filming it. The weekend after the season ends, another protest outside the Liver building. A gloriously sunny day..... 150. Believe me, if it was our neighbours the strand would have been closed. TV happy clappers would have bussed in to be part of it.

Make no mistake, apathy has well and truly set in. Don't let the illusion of a packed out Goodison for every game convince you otherwise.

Apathy FC. We're too cool for school. We get angry online but that's about it.